Custom 1st-2nd Edition character and 'scratch' sheets

[solas]

The first sheet allows you to fill it out as per a normal character sheet along with room for specialistations, and has sections for both Distinctions/Traits and personal and group experiences along with Conditions.

The second sheet is what old timers like me call a 'scratch sheet' where you would make notes regarding XP and skill stat changes. This form allows you to do that.

Character sheets

Please give feedback!

The style is 14th-15th Doctor of course.



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[tampahawke]

Tried to open, but it told I has to request access first. Request auto sent. The concept sounds like what some of us have been asking for. Thank you for your hard work and efforts to make these. Kevin H.

[solas]

Jan 30, 2024 17:39:16 GMT tampahawke said:

Tried to open, but it told I has to request access first. Request auto sent. The concept sounds like what some of us have been asking for. Thank you for your hard work and efforts to make these. Kevin H.

Interesting. I thought I changed the access to anyone who had the link. Sorry, I'll fix that!



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[solas]

Okay, the link is going to the wrong files for some reason. Will update this post.


(UPDATE) The link has now been updated and should be fully accessable.



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[thewarchief]

It's nice, but I'm not sure how legible it will be, since you can see the background through the text. There's not a lot of contrast.

Don't get me wrong, it's a really good layout, it's just that white/florescent-blue text over a blue background might not be the best option, especially if someone wants to write on the sheet with pen or pencil. . I think that's why they went with a plan white background for the text boxes in the original sheets.

Sorry to nitpick.

[solas]

Jan 30, 2024 18:28:31 GMT thewarchief said:

It's nice, but I'm not sure how legible it will be, since you can see the background through the text. There's not a lot of contrast.

Don't get me wrong, it's a really good layout, it's just that white/florescent-blue text over a blue background might not be the best option, especially if someone wants to write on the sheet with pen or pencil. . I think that's why they went with a plan white background for the text boxes in the original sheets.

Sorry to nitpick.

To be honest, that's why you'd use the plain black and white sheet to print. I wouldn't add the screenshotted background for something that was going to be printed and that in itself is something that rarely happens these days. That's why the scratch sheet version exists, to be 'marked' upon as you say.

But if there's a call for it, it's no particular difficulty to remove the background and restore it to black and white.



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[thewarchief]

Jan 31, 2024 2:19:08 GMT solas said:

To be honest, that's why you'd use the plain black and white sheet to print. I wouldn't add the screenshotted background for something that was going to be printed and that in itself is something that rarely happens these days. That's why the scratch sheet version exists, to be 'marked' upon as you say.

Ah, difference in play styles. Practically all the players I've gamed with use printed sheets for actual gameplay. I think I was the only one who ever showed up with my character on a laptop or tablet. These days, we'd all probably need much bigger tablets, too.

Jan 31, 2024 2:19:08 GMT solas said:

But if there's a call for it, it's no particular difficulty to remove the background and restore it to black and white.

S.

I was thinking alone the lines of white background only for the section that people write in, similar to the original, but you don't have to change anything on my account! And I do like the layout.

[misterharry]

It may just be me and something my set-up is doing, but the Word version comes out as words from the sheet seemingly randomly scattered over three pages.

For the pdf versions, I'd prefer to have all the text in white font so it shows up better against the blue background and is easier to read - the curse of ageing roleplayers! (By the way, my groups also use printed sheets rather than electronic - again, this may be symptomatic of an older age group.)

Will you be posting 1st edition sheets when they're ready?

Thanks.

[solas]

Jan 31, 2024 19:26:08 GMT misterharry said:

It may just be me and something my set-up is doing, but the Word version comes out as words from the sheet seemingly randomly scattered over three pages.

For the pdf versions, I'd prefer to have all the text in white font so it shows up better against the blue background and is easier to read - the curse of ageing roleplayers! (By the way, my groups also use printed sheets rather than electronic - again, this may be symptomatic of an older age group.)

Will you be posting 1st edition sheets when they're ready?

Thanks.

These sheets won't translate to Word, sorry. The formatting done in Acrobat does that and you'd be better taking a base image such as the sheet from either edition and opening that up as a Word document instead.

The text is or should be all white by design and you can test that by opening it up as a pdf.

And finally, the top left hand corner of the sheet says it all: they are meant to be for first *and* second edition at the same time, which is why Distinctions and Traits are the same box. If you want strictly printable versions though, the white will be converted to black and there'll be nothing but a plain white background. And at that point, you may as well be using the standard non form fillable second edition sheet which you can download from Cubicle 7. There's zero point making a form fillable sheet if you're not going to use the feature. See below.




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[solas]

Jan 31, 2024 14:48:20 GMT thewarchief said:

Jan 31, 2024 2:19:08 GMT solas said:

To be honest, that's why you'd use the plain black and white sheet to print. I wouldn't add the screenshotted background for something that was going to be printed and that in itself is something that rarely happens these days. That's why the scratch sheet version exists, to be 'marked' upon as you say.

Ah, difference in play styles. Practically all the players I've gamed with use printed sheets for actual gameplay. I think I was the only one who ever showed up with my character on a laptop or tablet. These days, we'd all probably need much bigger tablets, too.

Jan 31, 2024 2:19:08 GMT solas said:

But if there's a call for it, it's no particular difficulty to remove the background and restore it to black and white.

S.

I was thinking alone the lines of white background only for the section that people write in, similar to the original, but you don't have to change anything on my account! And I do like the layout.

As I just mentioned in another reply, there is a standalone black and white 2nd edition sheet you can download from Cubicle 7. To have the image background would just mean more to print for a printer at that point.




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[misterharry]

Feb 1, 2024 4:31:49 GMT solas said:

These sheets won't translate to Word, sorry. The formatting done in Acrobat does that and you'd be better taking a base image such as the sheet from either edition and opening that up as a Word document instead.

OK, it sounds like these sheets aren't for me then, which is a shame.

The text is or should be all white by design and you can test that by opening it up as a pdf.

The text on the pdf versions isn't uniformly white. Some is, but most of it has a bleed through from the colours in the background, making the smaller text difficult to read, particularly in the upper left quadrant - for me at least (and I assume others with eyesight problems).

And finally, the top left hand corner of the sheet says it all: they are meant to be for first *and* second edition at the same time, which is why Distinctions and Traits are the same box.

If the sheets are intended for first edition as well, they're currently missing Fighting and Marksman, the two Skills that were replaced with Conflict in the second edition.

[solas]

Feb 1, 2024 9:06:45 GMT misterharry said:

Feb 1, 2024 4:31:49 GMT solas said:

These sheets won't translate to Word, sorry. The formatting done in Acrobat does that and you'd be better taking a base image such as the sheet from either edition and opening that up as a Word document instead.

OK, it sounds like these sheets aren't for me then, which is a shame.

Yes, sorry about that.

The text is or should be all white by design and you can test that by opening it up as a pdf.

The text on the pdf versions isn't uniformly white. Some is, but most of it has a bleed through from the colours in the background, making the smaller text difficult to read, particularly in the upper left quadrant - for me at least (and I assume others with eyesight problems).

In practice, the text fields totally cover this and are of an intensity that most folks should be able to handle. I am sorry that your eyesight isn't discerening that, but that's what zooming in is for and it'd have to be adjusted for intensity to suit your eyesight.

And finally, the top left hand corner of the sheet says it all: they are meant to be for first *and* second edition at the same time, which is why Distinctions and Traits are the same box.

If the sheets are intended for first edition as well, they're currently missing Fighting and Marksman, the two Skills that were replaced with Conflict in the second edition.

Ah, this is true, but I think the Specialisation boxes can cover that now there's room to do so. Every iteration of a sheet like this has its share of compromises.


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[solas]

Feb 1, 2024 9:06:45 GMT misterharry said:

Feb 1, 2024 4:31:49 GMT solas said:

These sheets won't translate to Word, sorry. The formatting done in Acrobat does that and you'd be better taking a base image such as the sheet from either edition and opening that up as a Word document instead.

OK, it sounds like these sheets aren't for me then, which is a shame.

The text is or should be all white by design and you can test that by opening it up as a pdf.

The text on the pdf versions isn't uniformly white. Some is, but most of it has a bleed through from the colours in the background, making the smaller text difficult to read, particularly in the upper left quadrant - for me at least (and I assume others with eyesight problems).

And finally, the top left hand corner of the sheet says it all: they are meant to be for first *and* second edition at the same time, which is why Distinctions and Traits are the same box.

If the sheets are intended for first edition as well, they're currently missing Fighting and Marksman, the two Skills that were replaced with Conflict in the second edition.

I was wondering what you *were* chasing particularly though in a sheet? There's a few variations on the 1st Edition sheets out there and notably the 11th Doctor one that's in landscape format as opposed to portrait.

What're you after particularly? Maybe I can help.


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[thewarchief]

Jan 31, 2024 19:26:08 GMT misterharry said:

For the pdf versions, I'd prefer to have all the text in white font so it shows up better against the blue background and is easier to read - the curse of ageing roleplayers! (By the way, my groups also use printed sheets rather than electronic - again, this may be symptomatic of an older age group.)

This is the second gaming forum within a week where age and clarity of text has come up. We might one day end up with RPGs written in LARGE PRINT.

[thewarchief]

Feb 1, 2024 4:34:40 GMT solas said:

As I just mentioned in another reply, there is a standalone black and white 2nd edition sheet you can download from Cubicle 7. To have the image background would just mean more to print for a printer at that point.
S.

But it might be worth it if it looked nicer. As it is I'll probably take the 2nd edtion sheet and replace distinctions with traits , specilizations with Areas of knowledge and have a 1st edtion sheet. I just have to match the font.

[misterharry]

Feb 1, 2024 14:25:59 GMT thewarchief said:

Jan 31, 2024 19:26:08 GMT misterharry said:

For the pdf versions, I'd prefer to have all the text in white font so it shows up better against the blue background and is easier to read - the curse of ageing roleplayers! (By the way, my groups also use printed sheets rather than electronic - again, this may be symptomatic of an older age group.)

This is the second gaming forum within a week where age and clarity of text has come up. We might one day end up with RPGs written in LARGE PRINT.

That's the dream!

[misterharry]

Feb 1, 2024 12:37:48 GMT solas said:

I was wondering what you *were* chasing particularly though in a sheet? There's a few variations on the 1st Edition sheets out there and notably the 11th Doctor one that's in landscape format as opposed to portrait.

What're you after particularly? Maybe I can help.


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I've quite a few 1e character sheets that are perfectly serviceable (I'm not particularly interested in one for 2e), both official ones and fan-made. But it was when you mentioned that you were after a version with more space for things like extra Areas of Expertise that I was interested. But it's no biggie, I'll stick with the ones I have, most likely the 14th/15th Doctor branded version that Siskoid came up with recently.

[thewarchief]

Feb 1, 2024 14:31:45 GMT misterharry said:

Feb 1, 2024 14:25:59 GMT thewarchief said:

This is the second gaming forum within a week where age and clarity of text has come up. We might one day end up with RPGs written in LARGE PRINT.

That's the dream!

To me it's more like a nightmare. I went from having better than 20-20 vision to desiring large print!

[misterharry]

Feb 1, 2024 22:09:50 GMT thewarchief said:

Feb 1, 2024 14:31:45 GMT misterharry said:

That's the dream!

To me it's more like a nightmare. I went from having better than 20-20 vision to desiring large print!

That's my experience too. I had pretty much perfect vision until about 6-8 years ago, but the decline in my close vision for reading since then has been dramatic. I meant the large print RPG books would be the dream, to compensate. At least with the electronic versions, I can enlarge the document on screen.