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Post by Catsmate on Oct 31, 2021 19:18:02 GMT
So, what did people think?
Personally I rather liked it.
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Post by ninjaconor on Oct 31, 2021 19:37:17 GMT
I thought it was pretty good. A definite improvement on Revolution of the Daleks. Plot-wise, there are quite a lot of balls in the air and it's definitely a more complicated story than we've been getting before from Chibnall, but I think that's a positive thing. I much prefer the episode to be too complicated than too dumbed down, as has been a complaint for some of his previous stories. I think cutting out Graham and Ryan has proved to be a good idea: Yaz showed more personality here than in the entire previous two seasons put together. For the first time I'm really believing her friendship with The Doctor.
It also looks like this storyline might give us more information on The Division and The Doctor's past lives, which could be interesting. I'm already forming a theory that The Doctor was one of those two Time Lords that the villain dissolved in that vision she had. This could mean that there's more to the Timeless Child thing than it just being a memory wipe. Maybe she's more of a reconstruction of the TC, a bit like in Lungbarrow.
I wasn't that hyped for this series going in, but I have to say I'm really looking forward to next week's episode.
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Post by grinch on Oct 31, 2021 19:42:37 GMT
I thought it was alright. Still has the same problem of quite terrible dialogue in some places though.
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Post by markrand on Oct 31, 2021 19:51:24 GMT
Thanks for reminding me. Assuming my DVR already recorded it, I'll watch it right now.
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Post by boredeternal on Oct 31, 2021 20:10:50 GMT
I thought it was pretty good. A definite improvement on Revolution of the Daleks. Plot-wise, there are quite a lot of balls in the air and it's definitely a more complicated story than we've been getting before from Chibnall, but I think that's a positive thing. I much prefer the episode to be too complicated than too dumbed down, as has been a complaint for some of his previous stories. I think cutting out Graham and Ryan has proved to be a good idea: Yaz showed more personality here than in the entire previous two seasons put together. For the first time I'm really believing her friendship with The Doctor. It also looks like this storyline might give us more information on The Division and The Doctor's past lives, which could be interesting. I'm already forming a theory that The Doctor was one of those two Time Lords that the villain dissolved in that vision she had. This could mean that there's more to the Timeless Child thing than it just being a memory wipe. Maybe she's more of a reconstruction of the TC, a bit like in Lungbarrow.I wasn't that hyped for this series going in, but I have to say I'm really looking forward to next week's episode. I agree with you. A definite improvement from all the previous shows under Chibnall. Yaz is suddenly more scientifically minded that I thought she was capable of ?!?! I wasn't too excited for the new series either but I looking forward to the next episode as well. |
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Post by markrand on Oct 31, 2021 21:15:14 GMT
There's an extended encore of the episode on tonight. I'll post my thoughts on the episode after I watch it tomorrow.
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Post by adhseidh on Oct 31, 2021 22:28:38 GMT
Oooooooooo!!!!!!
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Post by markrand on Nov 1, 2021 15:41:36 GMT
It was a very good episode.
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Post by olegrand on Nov 1, 2021 16:54:28 GMT
Wot? No poll?  |
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Post by Catsmate on Nov 1, 2021 17:24:38 GMT
Wot? No poll? 
In my defense, this wasn't the "official" @rassilon episode poll thread, and I was in a hurry last night.
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Post by kirkkerman on Nov 1, 2021 22:21:24 GMT
The 8(!) simultaneous plot threads were really distracting, but the dog guy was pretty funny and the new Sontarans look wonderful. Not quite as optimistic about this series as I was going in, but I'll definitely keep watching.
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Post by Stormcrow on Nov 2, 2021 14:19:19 GMT
I thought it was pretty good. Let's say it has potential. The Doctor was giving off actual Doctor vibes for once. The dog-alien was kind of ridiculous, but Doctor Who is full of ridiculous aliens.
I have high hopes that they're rehabilitating the Sontarans. Although Strax is very funny, his character pretty much brought all of the Sontarans into the realm of comic relief. They touched on the comedy this time, but almost as if they were just trying to get past it ("Okay, here you go, Sontarans are funny") to get on with more serious Sontaran business.
The Flux is very like the Nothing of The Neverending Story, and I wonder if the main villain is going to be Gmork to the Flux's Nothing. (Dreadful thought: does that mean the solution to the crisis is to give the Doctor a new name?) I don't think Chibnall is actually trying to achieve this parallel.
Still had trouble understanding dialog over all the white noise, but I managed to get most of it without captions.
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Post by Stormcrow on Nov 2, 2021 14:24:37 GMT
P.S.: "Disastrous" is spelled thus, not "disasterous."
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Post by Rassilon on Nov 2, 2021 16:49:08 GMT
Wot? No poll?
In my defense, this wasn't the "official" @rassilon episode poll thread, and I was in a hurry last night.
Due to heavy commitments, I will only be here to respond to reported posts, delete spammers and enforce forum rules - so please feel free to continue with any self-created polls. Thank you. |
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13th Incarnation
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Favourite Doctors: Thirteen, Six, Five, Two, Eight, Eleven, Twelve, One, Nine...
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Post by Catsmate on Nov 2, 2021 19:23:02 GMT
There is now....
In my defense, this wasn't the "official" @rassilon episode poll thread, and I was in a hurry last night.
Due to heavy commitments, I will only be here to respond to reported posts, delete spammers and enforce forum rules - so please feel free to continue with any self-created polls. Thank you. |
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13th Incarnation
I Ate'nt Dead.
Posts: 3,859
Favourite Doctors: Thirteen, Six, Five, Two, Eight, Eleven, Twelve, One, Nine...
Traits: Eccentric, Insatiable Curiousity.
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Post by Catsmate on Nov 2, 2021 20:45:57 GMT
P.S.: "Disastrous" is spelled thus, not "disasterous."
Also it's staying as there doesn't seem to be a way to edit the poll without deleting and re-creating it. Sorry.
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Post by Stormcrow on Nov 3, 2021 13:35:41 GMT
P.S.: "Disastrous" is spelled thus, not "disasterous."
Since etymology is an interest of mine... Disastrous comes from French désastreux, which is the adjectival form of désastre. That's why you get the -str- cluster in the middle. Disaster changed its ending from désastre independently, since most French -tre endings eventually turn into -ter when they enter English. So, etymologically speaking, disaster and disastrous went separate spelling ways long before Shakespeare. He didn't go out of his way to spell things differently than other people — spellings were less fixed back then — but the French derivation of the word would surely have been known to him. He wouldn't have had any reason to spell it disasterous. He would be more likely to spell disaster as disastre.In Shakespeare's time, most people would have known the word disaster to mean an unfavorable aspect in astrology. It literally means ill-starred. Think of Romeo and Juliet, the "star-crossed lovers." The modern meaning of a calamity was only just emerging when Shakespeare was writing — as people began to take astrology less seriously, they began to use the word to refer to the thing the ill omen portended rather than the omen itself. But, having looked up this information, I find the use of the word disastrous to be especially suitable in Doctor Who, since trouble in the stars is a regular event in it. As for the twenty-first century, in fact it was the invention of the printing press and the widespread availability of print that eventually fixed English spelling into place, long before Shakespeare, back during the Great Vowel Shift. The old Middle English spellings remained fixed during a time of great pronunciation change in English, which is why English spelling seems so odd to people. (Almost every spelling has a logical history, and does make sense in context.) So the twenty-first century is not really unique in caring about spelling; it's been a preoccupation of the language since just after the time of Gutenberg. Anyway, this has just been some historical and etymological background of the sort that interests me. |
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