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Post by olegrand on Apr 13, 2017 7:32:18 GMT
Hello everyone I've seen "The War Games" a couple of times and there's something I'm not 100% sure about so I've decided to call on the Whovian Expert Knowledge of quite a few contributors here. I need these answers for a scenario I'm currently building - with a plot that draws heavily on the Doctor's continuity (and especially its loose ends etc.). Could you tell me if the following three assertions are True (which I believe them to be): 1. The planet where the War Games took place was NOT the home planet of the War Lords / aliens but a special "testing ground" planet artifically designed to resemble Earth. 2. At no time during the story does the Doctor sets foot on the War Lords' home planet - which remains completely unseen for the entirety of the ten episodes. 3. It is this unseen "home planet" that the Time Lords place inside some kind of force-field / time-lock whatever at the very end of the story. If these three assertions are true, then: What happens to the "testing ground" planet? Since it has been emptied / evacuated, it makes little sense to place it into some kind of force field / timelock etc. or have I missed something? Thanks in advance for the forthcoming answers, discussion etc. !
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Post by Catsmate on Apr 13, 2017 8:12:06 GMT
1. I don't remember this being explicitly stated but that was certainty my impression.
2. As a corollary to 1, yes.
3. Yes, it was enclosed in a time loop.
Your point about the testing planet is an excellent one. Presumably the Time Lords either destroyed it or otherwise cleaned up (all that tech left behind...). But maybe not. I don't remember this being mentioned in Exodus either.
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Post by misterharry on Apr 13, 2017 12:10:09 GMT
1. Yes, I think you're right. The Security Chief mentions "the home planet" as a different place and talks about the planet they are on having been chosen for the war games.
2. No, we don't see the home planet.
3. One of the Time Lords tells the War Lord that a forcefield has been placed around "your planet" so his people will remain prisoners behind it forever - I'd assume that this means his home planet. There's no mention of what happens to the world on which the war games took place - presumably it's just left as it was, but with the human armies having been returned back to Earth.
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Post by olegrand on Apr 13, 2017 13:19:33 GMT
Thanks a lot! Well, these confirmations kill my Big Cool Story Idea but at leats I won't damage the Whovian continuity (the idea was based on a plot device forcing the Doctor and the player-character to revisit places where the Doctor once had important adventures and my purported plot revolved arount the Warlords' final fate - but since the Doctor clearly never set foot on the Warlords' home planet, then I cannot use this!). So, back to square one...
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Post by senko on Apr 25, 2017 9:19:03 GMT
Just wanted to say that with the time war/changes to history its probably necessary to drop your big cool idea. Even the series itself contradicts itself often enough I think there's been about 3 or 4 different human timelines that were official at the time they were mentioned. I mean the Dalek invasion of earth was a major storyline and then it was gone and we've seen timelines with more advanced tech (first encounter with the cyberman they had space travel and then they didn't at a later period). So go ahead with your cool idea I'd say.
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Post by olegrand on Apr 25, 2017 17:41:24 GMT
Just wanted to say that with the time war/changes to history its probably necessary to drop your big cool idea. Even the series itself contradicts itself often enough I think there's been about 3 or 4 different human timelines that were official at the time they were mentioned. I mean the Dalek invasion of earth was a major storyline and then it was gone and we've seen timelines with more advanced tech (first encounter with the cyberman they had space travel and then they didn't at a later period). So go ahead with your cool idea I'd say. Ah, yeah I had thought about that - but in the meantime, I've changed my idea and I've ran the intended adventure using the colony of Vulcan as a setting (from "Power of the Daleks"), with a somewhat different plot... but that means I still have the Warlords in store
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