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Post by Nyder on Dec 2, 2016 10:55:08 GMT
What did you think?
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Post by CountClockwise on Dec 4, 2016 20:07:47 GMT
Man...this episode. I'm still trying to form my opinion of it so forgive me if I backpedal later. While I enjoyed it part of me kept cringing during the first half of this episode partially because of the dialogue. I'm not sure if it's just me but a trend has been that these people don't talk like real people. Quill's pregnancy could have been removed and little would have changed plot wise and the whole 'phantom pregnancy' (in this case literal) really grinds my gears.
And then the second half of this episode had the nerve to exist. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to swear so I'll use creative substitutes, well thump me with a packet of 2005 bourbons that second half! I like the rational that you can only take the moral high ground for so long before you realise that people will keep suffering and dying until decisive action is taken. This reminds me of how the Doctor commits genocide because he's simply run out of options. And the ending. I won't spoil it but a couple of absolutely gigantic plot bombs are dropped right in the last 5 minutes that'll set up the next season. My thoughts will probably become more coherent and stable after reflection.
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Post by misterharry on Dec 4, 2016 21:10:29 GMT
I thought it was a pretty good series finale, clearly setting things up for a second series (and I'll be annoyed if there isn't one after the way things have been left!).
Great ending with the Governors - and I'm sure there's going to be loads of speculation about whether Cyril Nri's character is the same one he played in The Sarah Jane Adventures.
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Post by CountClockwise on Dec 4, 2016 21:16:13 GMT
I thought it was a pretty good series finale, clearly setting things up for a second series (and I'll be annoyed if there isn't one after the way things have been left!). Great ending with the Governors - and I'm sure there's going to be loads of speculation about whether Cyril Nri's character is the same one he played in The Sarah Jane Adventures. I agree. I often second guess my own opinions and I wonder if the dialogue is just me not watching much TV lately or understanding 'the kids these days'.
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Post by ninjaconor on Dec 5, 2016 18:39:45 GMT
I really enjoyed the good parts of this episode. The ending was absolutely cheese-tacular in a brilliant way. Looking forward to series 2!
That said, it did feel a bit randomly cruel the way they killed off the parents. Also, it sometimes feels like this show is 80% standing in a semi-circle and having a chat with the villains. The episodes could do with either 10 minutes more substance or 10 minutes less length.
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Post by skudge001 on Jun 9, 2017 5:56:05 GMT
While there were a few interesting character bits and actors trying to do something with the material, there was so much awfulness and plot contrivance I'm glad it's over. Flaws: Phantom pregnancy. The McGuffin finally gets used after a season of tortured morality. (I won't even get into the ethics of the Doctor leaving a world destroying weapon in the hands of teenagers) The villain's revenge plot did not serve the purpose of the invasion. If you have the power to stealthily invade and destroy your enemies- do this first, then gloat over your foe. In particular if this is your specie's normal method of attack. Supporting cast of color killed off for artificial drama. These were interesting seldom seen characters who are critical to the primary characters. Character dies heroically, albeit in a contrived fashion, surprise she comes back. Negating not only her sacrifice, but her friend's sacrifice of killing her AND coming back as the one thing he tried to utterly destroy by sacrificing his morality and people. Bonus flaw points that the white girl gets the miraculous recovery.
The closing bit with the Governors just made me want to wince. Coal Hill School is an established part of DW continuity, where the Doctor and Clara both worked at. Somehow they missed a cabal of time manipulating governors setting up a lengthy plot?!? Let alone the body count and weirdness factor this season should have UNIT investigating all over the place. I will be hard pressed to watch next season, in spite of liking most of the characters.
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Post by imajica on Jun 9, 2017 10:21:23 GMT
And now we're pretty sure Class is no more. Certainly it had faults but, like Firefly, it deserved more than a single season. But hey, if you're going to show it digital-only, then at stupid o'clock, you're never going to get the audience figures to justify continued production.
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