barefoottourguide
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Post by barefoottourguide on Apr 1, 2014 21:02:15 GMT
Is it established anywhere if water has any effect on Cybermen? Will they sink to the bottom and short out, or can they walk across the bottom of the ocean to shore? Garrett
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Post by Marnal on Apr 1, 2014 23:19:37 GMT
I'd assume they would walk across the bottom just find. The whole point of those cybernetic bodies is that they can survive anything.
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misterharry
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Post by misterharry on Apr 2, 2014 8:22:54 GMT
In game terms, the general stats for Cybermen (from the various editions of the Core Rulebook and GM's Guides) don't include the Environmental trait - which would imply that they need a breathable atmosphere. In the Sourcebooks though, Mark 2-5 Cybermen have Environmental (which makes sense as some of these are shown to survive in the vacuum of space, so water would presumably provide little problem for them). I can understand the Mark 1 Cybermen (from The Tenth Planet) not having Environmental as they are visibly less advanced than other models. For the others though, it makes more sense to me for them all to have Environmental.
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Catsmate
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Post by Catsmate on Apr 4, 2014 10:46:25 GMT
Yes, given that that can survive vacuum the lack of air probably wouldn't bother them. Though if they end up deep enough (and I assume they're significantly more dense than water so they'll sink) the cold and the pressure should either deactivate them (cold) or destroy them (pressure). Guesstimating from their general ability to shrug off small-arms fire, and the strength of submarine hulls, I'd go with 150-250m safe depth in water. If they hit bottom before being crushed they should be able to walk, slowly given the surface, around until they run out of power. This also means they could break into WW1 and most WW2 subs, though more modern designs can dive deeper. Hope this helps.
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barefoottourguide
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Post by barefoottourguide on Apr 4, 2014 21:44:25 GMT
You just gave me a great idea. Hunt for red october with cybermdn on the ocean floor.
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Catsmate
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Post by Catsmate on Apr 5, 2014 10:49:11 GMT
You just gave me a great idea. Hunt for red october with cybermdn on the ocean floor. Hmmmmm..... A cyber-ship damaged but not destroyed during The Invasion plummets into the Baltic (or some suitable ocean). The cybermen hibernate and wake during the '80s, gather intelligence on the human power blocks and seek to trigger a nuclear exchange. Hmm, cyberised sailors, cramped conditions on a ballistic missile sub, it's got potential. Possible involving a Soviet UNIT detachment boarding the submerged sub (giving a chance to use those underwater rifles they developed). Good luck.
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