misterharry
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Post by misterharry on Jan 18, 2013 20:13:32 GMT
There's an interesting comment by one of the Cubicle 7 bods in response to a question about the 8th Doctor Sourcebook over on the C7 forum:
We're still discussing how to handle this one. It may get folded into the Seventh or Ninth, or get filled out with adventures and other material. It'll definitely be shorter than the Fourth or Tenth.
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stahlman
3rd Incarnation
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Post by stahlman on Jan 19, 2013 19:31:17 GMT
There are many great 8th Doctor audio adventures so I hope they do him justice.
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zepo
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Post by zepo on Jan 20, 2013 7:04:42 GMT
Interesting news. This one might have to wait until after the 50th Anniversary. If the 8th Doctor were to return they'll have 100% more material than they had before!  |
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jan 20, 2013 16:18:20 GMT
The same Cubicle 7 person (actually the line manager for DWAITAS by the look of it) has also posted that the following are either actually written or in the process of being written for 2013:
Eleventh Doctor Sourcebook One
GM's Kit
First Doctor Sourcebook
Second Doctor Sourcebook
Third Doctor Sourcebook
Fourth Doctor Sourcebook
Fifth Doctor Sourcebook
Sixth Doctor Sourcebook
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Post by Craig Oxbrow on Jan 24, 2013 13:03:21 GMT
Meanwhile on an anniversary news thread on RPGnet, Gar adds: Anyway, back to editing the Third Doctor book, commissioning the Sixth and Seventh, and finding out how wild we can go with the 8th... |
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Post by Siskoid on Jan 24, 2013 14:32:40 GMT
If the license can't cover the novels or audios, it'd be rather interesting for Cubicle 7 to create their own 8th Doc continuity, filling his sourcebook with new monsters, gadgets, places and times. It can't always be about modeling the series. The designers have their own ideas that could fit the Whoniverse, right?
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Post by chickenpaddy on Jan 25, 2013 3:26:19 GMT
I would find heavy inclusion of the novels and audio adventures in the 8th doctor book to be extremely annoying. I've never really gotten into the extended universe medium, and I have a feeling I would get very lost in all the references I know nothing about. But, I suppose that's more of a personal problem. I know that there are plenty of people who really enjoy the 8th doctor adventures and would love to see this information included. However, I cannot count myself among them. Sorry.
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jan 25, 2013 11:00:14 GMT
I would find heavy inclusion of the novels and audio adventures in the 8th doctor book to be extremely annoying. I've never really gotten into the extended universe medium, and I have a feeling I would get very lost in all the references I know nothing about. But, I suppose that's more of a personal problem. I know that there are plenty of people who really enjoy the 8th doctor adventures and would love to see this information included. However, I cannot count myself among them. Sorry. Cubicle 7's licence doesn't cover anything outside the TV series, so it ain't going to happen, and I don't think there would be a big enough demand to make it viable for them to try to expend the licence. Personally, I'd love it if C7 brought out a separate supplement for the spin-offs. But realistically it wouldn't make commercial sense. |
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Post by cigarman on Jan 26, 2013 0:13:00 GMT
I think 4 pages in the 7th or 9th book is plenty for the 8th Doctor.
One poorly done 2 hour TV movie does not a sourcebook make.
And I hope they leave out that Hollywood "half human" crap. Or just put it in a call out box so we can ignore it.
Between the audio dramas, books, and comic strip, the 8th Doctor is a continuity and canonical nightmare. The fewer pages on him, the better.
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Post by Rel Fexive on Jan 26, 2013 0:40:33 GMT
I seem to recall one of the pre-return books has the 8Doctor claiming he used some trickery to convince the Master that he really was half-human.
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Post by olegrand on Jan 26, 2013 6:22:59 GMT
The various Big Finish audiobooks on the 8th Doctor contain some really awesome stories - especially the autonomous, one-hour-per-episode "Eighth Doctor adventures" with the unforgettable Lucy Miller as the Doctor's companion; as far as creativity, storylines and acting are concerned, these are often at least as good as the current TV series... And some of DWM's 8th Doctor comics are equally superb - again with some unforgettable companions (Izzy, Slade etc.).
It's a shame really that Cubicle 7's license does not extend to these sources, because they would make a terrific sourcebook... as well as what we might call a "everybody's happy" deal: fans of the audiostories and graphic novels would have the pleasure of finding their beloved stories, characters and concepts translated into game terms... while those who do not know these stories would have a wealth of (really) remarkable material to discover !
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jan 26, 2013 8:15:59 GMT
The various Big Finish audiobooks on the 8th Doctor contain some really awesome stories - especially the autonomous, one-hour-per-episode "Eighth Doctor adventures" with the unforgettable Lucy Miller as the Doctor's companion; as far as creativity, storylines and acting are concerned, these are often at least as good as the current TV series... And some of DWM's 8th Doctor comics are equally superb - again with some unforgettable companions (Izzy, Slade etc.). It's a shame really that Cubicle 7's license does not extend to these sources, because they would make a terrific sourcebook... as well as what we might call a "everybody's happy" deal: fans of the audiostories and graphic novels would have the pleasure of finding their beloved stories, characters and concepts translated into game terms... while those who do not know these stories would have a wealth of (really) remarkable material to discover ! Totally agreed. And there really is no major continuity problem between the spin-offs - certainly nothing on the scale that the tv series has itself created with UNIT dating and the Doctor's age. So, "continuity nightmare"? Nope, just dozens and dozens of superb stories. |
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Post by olegrand on Jan 26, 2013 10:33:31 GMT
Totally agreed. And there really is no major continuity problem between the spin-offs - certainly nothing on the scale that the tv series has itself created with UNIT dating and the Doctor's age. So, "continuity nightmare"? Nope, just dozens and dozens of superb stories.  Exactly. In fact, the talented folks at Big Finish even make a point of tracking down and rationalising various continuity problems or unsolved lose ends of the classic series - often in very imaginative ways. And for people who actually care about such things, the BF audiostories are 100% official DW material. |
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Post by cigarman on Jan 26, 2013 23:10:47 GMT
Perhaps some of you can write an unofficial 8th Doctor source book covering the books, comic strip and audio dramas. Since C7 cannot cover this material, it would not be taking sales away from them and those of us who are unfamiliar with this material would benefit as well.  |
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Ordovician
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Post by Ordovician on Jan 27, 2013 7:08:10 GMT
Speaking of 8th Doctor audios, I was just listening to The Eight Truths two-parter and was very surprised that the Eight-Legs of Metebelis III were the baddies. Awesome.
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Post by Siskoid on Jan 27, 2013 12:25:51 GMT
Perhaps some of you can write an unofficial 8th Doctor source book covering the books, comic strip and audio dramas. Since C7 cannot cover this material, it would not be taking sales away from them and those of us who are unfamiliar with this material would benefit as well. Yeah, I'd be interested in collaborating on a fan-made, no-profit project like this with other Forum users. I've listened to most of the audios, but have read comparatively few of the books (there's LOTS!), so it's definitely not a project for a single person. |
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Post by Doctor X on Jan 27, 2013 12:36:28 GMT
I am curious about how this'll be pulled off as well. Maybe a sourceleaflet?
I mean, the options are basically stick to what was in the film and speculate about the Time War, or try to obtain rights from all the various sources.
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jan 27, 2013 15:33:07 GMT
Perhaps some of you can write an unofficial 8th Doctor source book covering the books, comic strip and audio dramas. Since C7 cannot cover this material, it would not be taking sales away from them and those of us who are unfamiliar with this material would benefit as well. Yeah, I'd be interested in collaborating on a fan-made, no-profit project like this with other Forum users. I've listened to most of the audios, but have read comparatively few of the books (there's LOTS!), so it's definitely not a project for a single person. I'd be up for this too. I've already done write-ups for most of the 8th Doctor's companions and a few monsters and villains. |
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Post by Siskoid on Jan 27, 2013 16:50:33 GMT
Since I posted, I've been thinking about starting an extracanonical project that would cover all the Doctors. Like maybe mimic the look of each sourcebook and act as a an appendix to each one. The 7th and 8th Doctors have a lot more extracanonical material than the others, but we get more time to compile them. I'd be interested in editing and even designing the pdfs for these, but I really want to see what the actual sourcebooks will be like!
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jan 27, 2013 17:12:54 GMT
Covering all Doctors is an excellent suggestion.
The 7th and 8th Doctor spin-offs supplements would indeed be massive if they cover all the stories. I'd suggest either splitting them down further in some way (e.g. separate volumes for audios, books and comics) or them containing highlights only, a selection of the best or most significant elements and themes. Though as you say, it may be better to wait to see what the actual sourcebooks contain.
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Post by Siskoid on Jan 27, 2013 18:46:02 GMT
I think you're right. The New Adventures and the EDAs are each so massive, they'd have to be their own books.
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Post by Kit on Jan 27, 2013 22:44:48 GMT
From my work with C7, I recall them only being able to use the BBC official televised material and no novels or radio or the like. It's possible that has changed, but I doubt it. I think the 8th Doctor wil lget an incredibly short chapter at the end of the 7th or beginning of the 9th.
Regardless of how it is done, i eagerly await books for all the Doctors.
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Post by Escher on Jan 28, 2013 0:01:16 GMT
It was stated by a writer over on rpg.net that the BBC licence doesn't cover any expanded universe material.
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Post by Doctor X on Jan 28, 2013 4:52:24 GMT
I like Siskoid's idea. Maybe a fanbook is in order.
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Post by Siskoid on Jan 28, 2013 18:39:13 GMT
I like Siskoid's idea. Maybe a fanbook is in order. Should I take this to Write-Ups and start something then? |
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jan 28, 2013 21:36:52 GMT
Sounds like a plan!
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Post by Siskoid on Jan 29, 2013 14:55:10 GMT
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Post by cigarman on Feb 9, 2013 0:28:51 GMT
So now the 8th Doctor sourcebook is going to be 160 pages long.
How are they going to pull that off?
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Post by ninjaconor on Apr 22, 2013 21:58:27 GMT
Maybe they could focus on Time War stuff. It's a vague enough period that they could make up entirely original content. I doubt it would ever be contradicted by the TV series and if it is, then wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey, the contradictions are due to damage to the time-line caused by the war.
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Exactly. In fact, the talented folks at Big Finish even make a point of tracking down and rationalising various continuity problems or unsolved lose ends of the classic series - often in very imaginative ways. And for people who actually care about such things, the BF audiostories are 100% official DW material. 
