misterharry
Dominus Tempus 
Dalek Caan's Lovechild
Posts: 3,246
Favourite Doctors: Second, Third, Fourth, Eleventh, Thirteenth
Traits: Empathic, Face in the Crowd, Insatiable Curiosity, Stubborn, Phobia (Heights), Unadventurous
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Post by misterharry on May 8, 2022 12:47:20 GMT
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Post by greyhame on May 8, 2022 13:01:39 GMT
I have never seen him - but from all I've read, he seems to be a very accomplished actor.
Hopefully, with better writing, he will prove to be more like the older Doctors.
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Post by olegrand on May 8, 2022 14:23:38 GMT
So, my certainty that we'd have another female Doctor stands corrected!  Fresh face, new start, RTD at the helm... I'm actually quite impatient to see the result...  WELCOME NCUTI GATWA! |
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Catsmate
13th Incarnation
It's complicated....
Posts: 3,753 
Favourite Doctors: Thirteen, Six, Five, Two, Eight, Eleven, Twelve, One, Nine...
Traits: Eccentric, Insatiable Curiousity.
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Post by Catsmate on May 8, 2022 15:33:26 GMT
Never heard of him.
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Post by imajica on May 8, 2022 16:36:31 GMT
I'm reliably informed that his work in Sex Education is pretty good (my daughter's words). And given that I'd never heard of Matt Smith before he took the role, I'm excited to see him in the part. It will, of course, fall down to the quality of the writing...
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Post by olegrand on May 8, 2022 17:09:29 GMT
It will, of course, fall down to the quality of the writing... Ultimately, it always boils down to precisely that: Peter Capaldi was as great an actor in the badly written 12th Doctor episodes as he was in the better ones... |
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Post by thewarchief on May 9, 2022 4:27:21 GMT
It will, of course, fall down to the quality of the writing... Ultimately, it always boils down to precisely that: Peter Capaldi was as great an actor in the badly written 12th Doctor episodes as he was in the better ones... Yes. I have my fingers crossed. In 2005 we benefited somewhat by the strong desire among writers, who were also fans, to try and revive the series. But will we get the same quality of writers and stories this time around? RTD should write some good episodes, but we'll have to wait and see who else they can get. Best of Luck to the new Doctor. |
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Post by olegrand on May 9, 2022 7:56:05 GMT
In 2005 we benefited somewhat by the strong desire among writers, who were also fans, to try and revive the series. But will we get the same quality of writers and stories this time around? I think that one of the major "success keys" of the RTD-era is the way they expertly balanced the old and the new, ie classic elements from the DW lore and mythology (let's call this 'category A'), entirely new concepts ('category B') and clever developements of existing ones ('category C'). In the first season with Christopher Eccleston, 'category A' ideas were represented by things like UNIT, well-known adversaries (Daleks, Autons...); 'category B' elements include (among other things) new species (Slitheen, the Gelth...), Jack Harkness, the Cardiff spacetime rift; 'category C' was represented by the Last Great Time War and the way it 'rebooted' the background of classic DW without disrupting it - take, for instance, the extraordinary "Dalek" episode - first reappearance of the Daleks but with an entirely new perspective (not to mention a glimpse of the Ninth Doctor's darker side). I feel that it was through this obviously very well-calculated and balanced use of old and new, combined with a very generous & rich storytelling (yes, I do think that every single episode of the RTD era contains far more substance and a far better distribution of dramatic tension than the subsequent showrunners' ones) that the 2005 reboot of the show achieved its triumphant goals. RTD should write some good episodes, but we'll have to wait and see who else they can get. Best of Luck to the new Doctor. Well from what I've read, when RTD was the showrunner, he exercised some strong 'continuity control' over the other writers' stories and as far as I'm concerned it was the right way to do things - as shown by the results! So let's hope that RTD will have the same degree of creative control over the forthcoming seasons. This man is not only an excellent writer and showrunner, he's a true visionary - and those who think I'm exaggerating should (re)watch Years and Years... |
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Catsmate
13th Incarnation
It's complicated....
Posts: 3,753
Favourite Doctors: Thirteen, Six, Five, Two, Eight, Eleven, Twelve, One, Nine...
Traits: Eccentric, Insatiable Curiousity.
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Post by Catsmate on May 9, 2022 8:14:43 GMT
In 2005 we benefited somewhat by the strong desire among writers, who were also fans, to try and revive the series. But will we get the same quality of writers and stories this time around? I think that one of the major "success keys" of the RTD-era is the way they expertly balanced the old and the new, ie classic elements from the DW lore and mythology (let's call this 'category A'), entirely new concepts ('category B') and clever developements of existing ones ('category C'). In the first season with Christopher Eccleston, 'category A' ideas were represented by things like UNIT, well-known adversaries (Daleks, Autons...); 'category B' elements include (among other things) new species (Slitheen, the Gelth...), Jack Harkness, the Cardiff spacetime rift; 'category C' was represented by the Last Great Time War and the way it 'rebooted' the background of classic DW without disrupting it - take, for instance, the extraordinary "Dalek" episode - first reappearance of the Daleks but with an entirely new perspective (not to mention a glimpse of the Ninth Doctor's darker side). I feel that it was through this obviously very well-calculated and balanced use of old and new, combined with a very generous & rich storytelling (yes, I do think that every single episode of the RTD era contains far more substance and a far better distribution of dramatic tension than the subsequent showrunners' ones) that the 2005 reboot of the show achieved its triumphant goals. RTD should write some good episodes, but we'll have to wait and see who else they can get. Best of Luck to the new Doctor. Well from what I've read, when RTD was the showrunner, he exercised some strong 'continuity control' over the other writers' stories and as far as I'm concerned it was the right way to do things - as shown by the results! So let's hope that RTD will have the same degree of creative control over the forthcoming seasons. This man is not only an excellent writer and showrunner, he's a true visionary - and those who think I'm exaggerating should (re)watch Years and Years... |
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Post by Acrobatic Flea on May 9, 2022 9:19:25 GMT
I'm reliably informed that his work in Sex Education is pretty good (my daughter's words). And given that I'd never heard of Matt Smith before he took the role, I'm excited to see him in the part. It will, of course, fall down to the quality of the writing... My wife would echo your daughter's view of his work on Sex Education. She says he's really good in it... perhaps his arrival in the TARDIS will even get her to watch Doctor Who again? I wonder how much of a bump the show's viewing figures will get from Sex Education's fanbase checking our show out? Coupled with 'lapsed' fans whose interest is piqued by the return of RTD! |
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Post by olegrand on May 9, 2022 9:22:21 GMT
Ah, continuity, I'd like some of that. Well, that's the crux of it, really - and it requires some very delicate balancing and fine-tuning. IMHO, this 'perfect balance' was one of the defining elements of the RTD era, whereas Steven Moffat's tenure as showrunner brought us what I'd call "death by continuity", obsessing with intricate non-chronological plots (e.g. River Song) and by a compulsion to always develop 'supporting' characters or subplots which tended to steal the Doctor's rightful place as center stage (e.g. River Song once again, Clara, "Me"...) - something that Jack Harkness never did (even though he was extremely charismatic etc.)... not to mention what we call in French "fausses bonnes idées" ('false good ideas'), such as bringing Gallifrey back (destroying much of RTD's carefully constructed continuity)... only to prove unable to do anything interesting with it as far as actual stories were concerned. Chris Chibnall's era, again IMHO, was marked (among other things, but I'll restrict myself to continuity here) by complete discontinuity, first masquerading as a desire to "change everything and challenge expectations" and then being revealed as a mere lack of vision and plan, with multiple "damage control" and "that was the plan all along" statements (a kind of "meta-retcon", if you will). |
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drinkplentyofmalk
2nd Incarnation
Posts: 50
Favourite Doctors: 4, 7, 8. 9, 11 (If I can't just say 'All of them')
Traits: Insatiable Curiosity, Phobia - Thanatosphobia, Slow Reflexes (Minor), Single-Minded (Major)
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Post by drinkplentyofmalk on May 9, 2022 11:10:53 GMT
I haven't gotten around to watching Sex Ed yet (though I suppose I'll have to now) but I dismissed rumors of Ncuti being the Doctor based purely on the fact that he IS a giant star - for the last while DW as a property has been back to the strange 80s atmosphere of "this show is a big cultural deal, but it's mainly being made by and for people who are already die-hard fans', where 'being Doctor Who' would probably be treated as a dead end role rather than an amazing achievement. The sheer confidence in casting someone with so much general audience passion and interest behind them feels like a major statement about the show returning to something made with the intent of... well, general audiences actually enjoying it. To put it another way, this has relieved any worries I had about the new era putting the Morbius Doctors on screen ever again  |
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Post by thewarchief on May 9, 2022 16:05:30 GMT
I think that one of the major "success keys" of the RTD-era is the way they expertly balanced the old and the new, ie classic elements from the DW lore and mythology (let's call this 'category A'), entirely new concepts ('category B') and clever developements of existing ones ('category C'). [/quote] Yes, and they made it look a lot easier than it really is. Most updates/sequels/reboots tend to show up the original series via better effects, locations, story arcs, fleshing out the supporting characters that sort of thing. If the new show is poorly written it just makes the original look all that much better. It's rare to be able to update the concept while still paying homage to the original. Well from what I've read, when RTD was the showrunner, he exercised some strong 'continuity control' over the other writers' stories and as far as I'm concerned it was the right way to do things - as shown by the results! So let's hope that RTD will have the same degree of creative control over the forthcoming seasons. This man is not only an excellent writer and showrunner, he's a true visionary - and those who think I'm exaggerating should (re)watch Years and Years... Yes. In the classic series they used to have a Producer and a Script Editor who would work together on the series style, tone and continuity, although continuity, due to the nature of the series, probably ins't as important as in other programs. |
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Post by grinch on May 9, 2022 22:08:42 GMT
Looks like I’m very much in the minority here considering I absolutely detest Sex Education as a program. Personally I find it rather overrated but that’s just my opinion. Still, much like previous actors before him I’m more than willing to give the fellow a chance. I do think it’ll be a case of (much like many of you here have already said) whether the writing does him a disservice or not.
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Post by olegrand on May 10, 2022 10:10:14 GMT
Looks like I’m very much in the minority here considering I absolutely detest Sex Education as a program. Well I haven't seen it and I don't intend to (being in my 50s, I doubt I'm part of that show's target audience, anyway...) and I doubt I'm the only one here. Personally I find it rather overrated but that’s just my opinion. Still, much like previous actors before him I’m more than willing to give the fellow a chance. I do think it’ll be a case of (much like many of you here have already said) whether the writing does him a disservice or not. Yeah - and don't forget that great actors can also be in bad shows and vice versa  |
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scottbarratt1989
2nd Incarnation
You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common..
Posts: 27
Favourite Doctors: Davidson, Smith
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Post by scottbarratt1989 on May 10, 2022 10:59:45 GMT
I was worried that we may be making a step back to Tennant last week but RTD has put my mind at ease...
Doctor Who is moving forward, as it should do. Continually evolving/changing/"regenerating" wink wink. I love this casting, it feels fresh and that excites me.
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