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Post by grinch on Aug 13, 2021 13:56:06 GMT
Inspired by the recent Marvel television series and because I can’t find a thread like this on the boards, I thought I’d start one here. These questions will hopefully serve as a inspirations for some of your campaigns. Providing you want to run alternate adventures which differ from established continuity.
So follow me, and dare to face the unknown, and ponder the question: what if?
#1. What if Dr Liz Shaw never worked for UNIT?
In the early ‘70s, with the establishment of UNIT Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart set about recruiting bright and brilliant individuals. In our universe, he drafted Dr Liz Shaw formerly of University of Cambridge who, despite her disbelief, eventually accepted the position. And together her and the Third incarnation of the Doctor made for a brief but effective partnership.
However, in this universe Dr Liz Shaw was unable to accept the position having begun preparations to embark on a year long lecture tour. As such, the Brigadier was forced to rely on his second choice for the position.
A young, slightly arrogant individual with an extreme case of thanatophobia i.e. a fear of death but just as brilliant aptly named Professor Richard Lazarus.
(In our universe, he never received so much as a phone call..)
Although, he possessed just as much reticence regarding UNIT and its activities he accepted the position seeing it as a useful means of funding his experiments into immortality.
From there, he would begin working with the Third Doctor in a rather turbulent but just as effective partnership.
Here’s a few ideas for such a campaign.
* Just how exactly would Professor Lazarus fare being involved in such adventures as Spearhead from Space or even dealing with the Silurian menace?
* As Professor Lazarus continues to get involved in the activities of UNIT, I could see him remaining in the position for a lot longer than Dr Shaw did. Possibly meaning that Jo Grant and Sarah Jane Smith would never come to encounter and travel with the Doctor.
* As they grow to know one another, how exactly would Professor Lazarus react to know of the inner workings of the TARDIS or even the Doctor’s ability to regenerate? What would he do with such knowledge?
* And what of Dr Liz Shaw in this new universe?
Personally, I don’t think Lazarus would be as well liked by the Brigadier or Benton and the others but I could see the former respecting him for his brilliance.
For some reason, I also have this image of Lazarus and the Third Doctor sharing a glass of port in one of their more civil moments and discussing mortality while the Doctor alludes to his own views on life and death.
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Post by grinch on Oct 23, 2021 10:53:45 GMT
#2. What if Sutekh wasn't a destroyer?
"I am Sutekh. Wherever I tread I bring... life."
Basically, what it says on the tin. A universe where Sutekh wasn't a genocidal maniac looking to end all life in the universe. A universe where Sutekh's psychc gifts were nourished from birth leading him to become extremely powerful bordering on omnipotent. However, possessing more wisom and a greater sense of self-reflection in contrast to his main universe counterpart, Sutekh took a vow of pacifism and decided to use his gifts to bring peace and prosperity across the universe. Travelling to such primitive worlds as Earth, Peladon and many others, Sutekh and his fellow Osirians would use their technology and teachings to create veritable utopias. Places where pain and suffering were a thing of the past.
Here a few ideas for such a campaign.
*As Phaester Osiris under the leadership of the wise and benevolent Sutekh continues to expand its influence across the universe, the Time Lords may view the Osirians as a possible threat and take drastic action. Could make for the start of a different type of Time War. Depending on how far the Time War may escalate and possibly being pushed to the edge, Sutekh may end up whether he likes it or not becoming a Destroyer of Worlds after all..
* In such a universe, the Osirians instead of being practically extinct are possibly more commonplace with PCs being able to meet both the good and bad of Osirian society.
* And what of Earth and the other planets the Osirians visited? Aside from having a drastic change in both Egyptian mythology and possessing more of an Egyptian aesthetic (More pyramids for one thing...) the history of these planets will be completely different from our main universe counterparts. Would enable people to play drastically different versions of key canon characters such as Jamie, Jo, Sarah Jane, etc.
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 23, 2021 11:37:41 GMT
Fascinating. Nice work.
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Post by grinch on Oct 23, 2021 11:59:58 GMT
Thank you, I’d like to do more of these if I can think of any. Of course, if anyone has own their ideas then please feel free to contribute. Personally, as much as I enjoy the Unbound series I always thought they were limited somewhat by the fact they merely focused on AU versions of the Doctor. Hence these ideas presenting the idea of a good Sutekh (Sutekh the Preserver, perhaps?) and an AU Dr Liz Shaw and whatever monstrosity Professor Lazarus ended up becoming working alongside the Doctor. |
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Post by spydalek on Oct 23, 2021 14:09:31 GMT
One of the bigger "What Ifs" I've been pondering is "What if Rose convinced the Doctor to go back for Jack after the events of the Christmas Invasion?" Like, instead of breaking his Vortex Manipulator travelling back to Victorian London (or whenever it was he landed), the Doctor catches up to him in the far future and he becomes a semi-permanent member of the TARDIS Crew.
The effect that would have would be huge, since he wouldn't be around to "reform" Torchwood 3, or do any of the adventures he got up to on Earth. It could be a very different world, and the Torchwood 3 gang wouldn't be there for the events of the Dalek Invasion in 2009.
I have also thought about "What if the First Doctor and Susan chose to hide out in the 2020s instead of 1963?" but didn't get very far with that one. Who as we know it would probably look very very different.
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Post by spydalek on Oct 23, 2021 14:17:00 GMT
* As they grow to know one another, how exactly would Professor Lazarus react to know of the inner workings of the TARDIS or even the Doctor’s ability to regenerate? What would he do with such knowledge? In regards to the Regeneration thing, I could see him maybe becoming obsessed with it. Maybe even kidnapping the Master (if he's around when the Master first shows up) when he finds out that he and the Doctor are the same species. Experimenting on him for a way to grant himself the regenerations. Maybe even becoming a villain the Doctor has to stop. A very tragic ending for his character. |
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Post by grinch on Oct 23, 2021 18:36:55 GMT
One of the bigger "What Ifs" I've been pondering is "What if Rose convinced the Doctor to go back for Jack after the events of the Christmas Invasion?" Like, instead of breaking his Vortex Manipulator travelling back to Victorian London (or whenever it was he landed), the Doctor catches up to him in the far future and he becomes a semi-permanent member of the TARDIS Crew. The effect that would have would be huge, since he wouldn't be around to "reform" Torchwood 3, or do any of the adventures he got up to on Earth. It could be a very different world, and the Torchwood 3 gang wouldn't be there for the events of the Dalek Invasion in 2009. I have also thought about "What if the First Doctor and Susan chose to hide out in the 2020s instead of 1963?" but didn't get very far with that one. Who as we know it would probably look very very different. Without Captain Jack, I imagine Torchwood would continue to seize alien technology and use it to expand their influence. Of course, with the death of Queen Victoria it’s entirely possible that it may have disbanded or folded completely. Leading to what remained of Torchwood possibly being absorbed by The Forge come the 20th century allowing them to become more powerful. I also think if it were left to The Forge to help fend off the Dalek Invasion of 2009, they’d be more casualties. They’d possibly be more willing to let other parts of the world burn if it meant wiping out the Dalek threat. As for the First Doctor and Susan in 2020? Rather depends on whether we’re using the Sixties take on the 21st century or our contemporary version. COVID not withstanding he’d probably find it harder not to draw attention and would certainly take on different companions. |
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Post by grinch on Oct 23, 2021 18:43:05 GMT
* As they grow to know one another, how exactly would Professor Lazarus react to know of the inner workings of the TARDIS or even the Doctor’s ability to regenerate? What would he do with such knowledge? In regards to the Regeneration thing, I could see him maybe becoming obsessed with it. Maybe even kidnapping the Master (if he's around when the Master first shows up) when he finds out that he and the Doctor are the same species. Experimenting on him for a way to grant himself the regenerations. Maybe even becoming a villain the Doctor has to stop. A very tragic ending for his character. I’d imagine Professor Lazarus would easily become obsessed with the idea. Beforehand, he’d probably attribute his change in appearance as merely being separate agents or a series of cunning disguises. Possibly stealing DNA from The Master and the Doctor to try and re-engineer the process. He’d certainly be the first to call out the hypocrisy of it all when the Doctor lectures him on mortality. I definitely could see The Master manipulating him as his main universe counterpart did. What his experiments would create is another matter entirely. It might give him immortality for lack of a better term but almost a half life like Mawdryn. Leading him to have to be confined by UNIT for the rest of his very, very long life. Much to the disappointment of his friend the Doctor. Of course, he might actually succeed in his experiments and achieve regeneration. Which might draw the attention of the Time Lords and cause drastic consequences for Earth and its people. |
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Post by spydalek on Oct 23, 2021 18:47:14 GMT
As for the First Doctor and Susan in 2020? Rather depends on whether we’re using the Sixties take on the 21st century or our contemporary version. COVID not withstanding he’d probably find it harder not to draw attention and would certainly take on different companions. Yeah. Our current present day, of sorts. The first thing my brain went to was "Oh gods, WOTAN would be even more powerful", which would be terrifying. It would be an interesting campaign start, not having to worry about 90% of canon. New characters as well. |
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Post by grinch on Oct 23, 2021 18:57:12 GMT
As for the First Doctor and Susan in 2020? Rather depends on whether we’re using the Sixties take on the 21st century or our contemporary version. COVID not withstanding he’d probably find it harder not to draw attention and would certainly take on different companions. Yeah. Our current present day, of sorts. The first thing my brain went to was "Oh gods, WOTAN would be even more powerful", which would be terrifying. It would be an interesting campaign start, not having to worry about 90% of canon. New characters as well. I think so as well. Especially considering unlike the WOTAN of the main universe, WOTAN would already be online and easily able to access nukes and the like. Could even act as a separate origin for the Cybermen as well. Oh most definitely. Brings to mind what Torchwood used to say “The 21st century is where it all changes....” |
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Post by spydalek on Oct 23, 2021 19:07:50 GMT
Yeah. Our current present day, of sorts. The first thing my brain went to was "Oh gods, WOTAN would be even more powerful", which would be terrifying. It would be an interesting campaign start, not having to worry about 90% of canon. New characters as well. I think so as well. Especially considering unlike the WOTAN of the main universe, WOTAN would already be online and easily able to access nukes and the like. Could even act as a separate origin for the Cybermen as well. Oh most definitely. Brings to mind what Torchwood used to say “The 21st century is where it all changes....” Definitely a lot more at stake in that particular adventure. Considering how much of our life is online these days. It could be the perfect campaign for a set of players who don't know canon very well. They wouldn't have to learn too much. |
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Post by grinch on Oct 23, 2021 19:15:48 GMT
I think so as well. Especially considering unlike the WOTAN of the main universe, WOTAN would already be online and easily able to access nukes and the like. Could even act as a separate origin for the Cybermen as well. Oh most definitely. Brings to mind what Torchwood used to say “The 21st century is where it all changes....” Definitely a lot more at stake in that particular adventure. Considering how much of our life is online these days. It could be the perfect campaign for a set of players who don't know canon very well. They wouldn't have to learn too much. Be the Whoniverses’s version of Ultron now that I think about it. That would be super appealing for a campaign. Telling players that aside from the presence of the First Doctor and Susan, you can completely disregard everything else they may already know. |
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 26, 2021 9:08:35 GMT
One of the bigger "What Ifs" I've been pondering is "What if Rose convinced the Doctor to go back for Jack after the events of the Christmas Invasion?" Like, instead of breaking his Vortex Manipulator travelling back to Victorian London (or whenever it was he landed), the Doctor catches up to him in the far future and he becomes a semi-permanent member of the TARDIS Crew. The effect that would have would be huge, since he wouldn't be around to "reform" Torchwood 3, or do any of the adventures he got up to on Earth. It could be a very different world, and the Torchwood 3 gang wouldn't be there for the events of the Dalek Invasion in 2009. I have also thought about "What if the First Doctor and Susan chose to hide out in the 2020s instead of 1963?" but didn't get very far with that one. Who as we know it would probably look very very different. Without Captain Jack, I imagine Torchwood would continue to seize alien technology and use it to expand their influence. Of course, with the death of Queen Victoria it’s entirely possible that it may have disbanded or folded completely. Leading to what remained of Torchwood possibly being absorbed by The Forge come the 20th century allowing them to become more powerful. I also think if it were left to The Forge to help fend off the Dalek Invasion of 2009, they’d be more casualties. They’d possibly be more willing to let other parts of the world burn if it meant wiping out the Dalek threat. As for the First Doctor and Susan in 2020? Rather depends on whether we’re using the Sixties take on the 21st century or our contemporary version. COVID not withstanding he’d probably find it harder not to draw attention and would certainly take on different companions.
It would probably be a rather different world.
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 26, 2021 9:14:51 GMT
In regards to the Regeneration thing, I could see him maybe becoming obsessed with it. Maybe even kidnapping the Master (if he's around when the Master first shows up) when he finds out that he and the Doctor are the same species. Experimenting on him for a way to grant himself the regenerations. Maybe even becoming a villain the Doctor has to stop. A very tragic ending for his character. I’d imagine Professor Lazarus would easily become obsessed with the idea. Beforehand, he’d probably attribute his change in appearance as merely being separate agents or a series of cunning disguises. Possibly stealing DNA from The Master and the Doctor to try and re-engineer the process. He’d certainly be the first to call out the hypocrisy of it all when the Doctor lectures him on mortality. I definitely could see The Master manipulating him as his main universe counterpart did. What his experiments would create is another matter entirely. It might give him immortality for lack of a better term but almost a half life like Mawdryn. Leading him to have to be confined by UNIT for the rest of his very, very long life. Much to the disappointment of his friend the Doctor. Of course, he might actually succeed in his experiments and achieve regeneration. Which might draw the attention of the Time Lords and cause drastic consequences for Earth and its people.
Another possibility, regarding your two points that I've highlighted, is the Master corrupting Lazarus while he's part of UNIT and using him as a mole within the organisation, until the inevitable betrayals of course.
I had an idea along this line a few years ago.
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Post by spydalek on Oct 26, 2021 12:25:42 GMT
Without Captain Jack, I imagine Torchwood would continue to seize alien technology and use it to expand their influence. Of course, with the death of Queen Victoria it’s entirely possible that it may have disbanded or folded completely. Leading to what remained of Torchwood possibly being absorbed by The Forge come the 20th century allowing them to become more powerful. I also think if it were left to The Forge to help fend off the Dalek Invasion of 2009, they’d be more casualties. They’d possibly be more willing to let other parts of the world burn if it meant wiping out the Dalek threat. As for the First Doctor and Susan in 2020? Rather depends on whether we’re using the Sixties take on the 21st century or our contemporary version. COVID not withstanding he’d probably find it harder not to draw attention and would certainly take on different companions.
It would probably be a rather different world.
I think I was more imagining the plots getting pushed like 60+ years, but I suppose that's more of a (to borrow a fic term) "Modern AU" than a "What If...", so yeah... That definitely makes more sense for a "What If..." scenario. |
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 26, 2021 13:43:09 GMT
It might be something like The Time Travellers, with a Cyberman settlement in Antarctica, a South African invasion of the UK, experiments in time travel, WOTAN's conquest being partially successful et cetra (an idea I explored a bit in Earth-Six) with elements of Sympathy for the Devil.
It would probably be a rather different world.
I think I was more imagining the plots getting pushed like 60+ years, but I suppose that's more of a (to borrow a fic term) "Modern AU" than a "What If...", so yeah... That definitely makes more sense for a "What If..." scenario.
Well as has been said the Doctor and Susan would have more problems regarding identification et cetera. Though he should have the skills to deal with such nuisances.
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Post by spydalek on Oct 26, 2021 13:57:49 GMT
I think I was more imagining the plots getting pushed like 60+ years, but I suppose that's more of a (to borrow a fic term) "Modern AU" than a "What If...", so yeah... That definitely makes more sense for a "What If..." scenario.
Well as has been said the Doctor and Susan would have more problems regarding identification et cetera. Though he should have the skills to deal with such nuisances.
Nah, my fault for not being clear. And yeah, it's been shown that incarnations prior to Nine had access to Psychic Paper. |
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Post by grinch on Oct 26, 2021 14:01:45 GMT
I’d imagine Professor Lazarus would easily become obsessed with the idea. Beforehand, he’d probably attribute his change in appearance as merely being separate agents or a series of cunning disguises. Possibly stealing DNA from The Master and the Doctor to try and re-engineer the process. He’d certainly be the first to call out the hypocrisy of it all when the Doctor lectures him on mortality. I definitely could see The Master manipulating him as his main universe counterpart did. What his experiments would create is another matter entirely. It might give him immortality for lack of a better term but almost a half life like Mawdryn. Leading him to have to be confined by UNIT for the rest of his very, very long life. Much to the disappointment of his friend the Doctor. Of course, he might actually succeed in his experiments and achieve regeneration. Which might draw the attention of the Time Lords and cause drastic consequences for Earth and its people.
Another possibility, regarding your two points that I've highlighted, is the Master corrupting Lazarus while he's part of UNIT and using him as a mole within the organisation, until the inevitable betrayals of course.
I had an idea along this line a few years ago.
Blimey, it would be Earth's very own version of Davros.  "Your voice is different but it's arrogance remains unchanged...."That quote even works when used in said context of the Doctor meeting Professor Lazarus in another incarnation. It does make you wonder whether after obtaining immortality Professor Lazarus by the 21st century has been consumed by nothing but thoughts of vengeance towards his old friend or whether he has grown for the better and accepted that what he did wasn't necessarily for the right reasons. Actually, in keeping with his fate in the television series you could always infer that his now damaged genetic code is still in a state of change or still evolving. I'm imagining that a UNIT operative pays a visit to his quarters but finds him oddly unresponsive. He inspects the Professor only for his tumour covered body to suddenly crack open and reveal that it has become a hollow shell. With whatever remained of the Professor inside having escaped, like a snake shedding its skin... If we are to suggest that Professor Lazarus worked alongside The Doctor for long enough, it's entirely possible that come the events of the Terror of the Autons the Master got inside his head and has been manipulating him ever since. Not necessarily via hypnosis but merely by playing on his fear of death and the promise of providing DNA samples. Although, the Master will no doubt betray him and purposely provide him with the wrong formula or the incomplete DNA sequence of a Time Lord leading to his mutation. |
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Post by spydalek on Oct 26, 2021 14:02:43 GMT
Ooo, just thought of another. "What if the Third Doctor had fallen into Torchwood's hands and not UNITs."
How would they treat him? Probably worse than UNIT, but like, would they just lock him up somewhere or would they use him for their own cases? How would he react to Torchwood as well, since Three would have no idea what caused Queen Victoria to hate him enough to set up this organisation. Would Jack show up early to try and help him escape?
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Post by grinch on Oct 26, 2021 14:24:26 GMT
What if Doctor Marshall Manor Meyer... became a God?
The Key to Time. A powerful artefact that is capable of maintaining or alternatively upsetting the balance of the universe. During the Doctor's Fourth incarnation, he and Romana were instructed by the White Guardian to gather the segments to prevent the Key falling into the hands of evil and then come to the conclusion of said quest scattered them across Time and Space. Presumably lost forever until in his next incarnation, he was once again tasked to gather the segments. In this universe, things went slightly differently. Without even realising it, Doctor Meyer throughout his travels in time and space had gathered several trinkets which turned out to be the various segments of the Key to Time in their disguised forms. It was only after landing on the planet Atrios and attempting to sell his wares to Princess Astra that he discovered that he had inadvertently gathered the pieces to one of the most powerful items in the entirety of creation. A universe molded and reshaped to the wills of a snake oil salesman? A universe where Doctor Meyer has a monopoly on the entirety of creation? Eh. Might not be that bad. Here are a few ideas for such a campaign. * Considering the personality of the character, such a campaign could have either a comedic or serious tone. Doctor Meyer despite his newfound omnipotence isn't so much a genocidal maniac but rather someone who probably doesn't even know what he is doing. He might be on a level above the Guardians by now, but he doesn't necessarily possess the wisdom to use said Key correctly. Simply put, a universe plunged into pure chaos. * And what of the role of the Guardians now? The White and Black Guardians may instruct your PCs and several recognisable NPCs to embark on their own seperate quests for the Key to Time. Not to find it, but rather to somehow get it out of his grubby little hands before he can cause any more damage. For those unfamiliar, this is a character Catsmate and I created and came up with during the past year: dwaitas.proboards.com/thread/4313/original-character-doctor-marshall-manor?page=1&scrollTo=34173Note: Just a fun idea I had while thinking of possible What-If scenarios.
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Post by grinch on Oct 26, 2021 14:30:35 GMT
Ooo, just thought of another. "What if the Third Doctor had fallen into Torchwood's hands and not UNITs." How would they treat him? Probably worse than UNIT, but like, would they just lock him up somewhere or would they use him for their own cases? How would he react to Torchwood as well, since Three would have no idea what caused Queen Victoria to hate him enough to set up this organisation. Would Jack show up early to try and help him escape? Definitely be more experimentation on the part of Torchwood I'd imagine. Figuring out just what exactly makes him tick. I could see the Third Doctor trying to charm his way out of it until to discover that he has been locked up on the orders of Queen Victoria. Torchwood strike me as paranoid enough that they'd probably keep him under lock and key in a cell right next to some captive Weevils (Actually, I now have the image of the Third Doctor trying to sooth the Weevils as he did Aggedor..) rather than allow him to roam free. Although, they might consult him with regards to strange cases or possibly future events. What with him being a time traveller at all. In any case, he'd be appalled that they're keeping aliens captive and especially with their "If it's aliens, it's ours" approach. Jack would probably be quite sympathetic although he'd have to acknowledge that in his immortal state he's being watched as much as the Doctor is. |
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Post by grinch on Oct 26, 2021 19:10:07 GMT
What if... The Human Race never existed?
In our universe, the Earth is one of the Doctor's favourite planets. A place he endlessly revisits and where the majority of his travelling companions come from. But in this universe, the Earth was destroyed in its infancy by a freak cosmic storm long before the Silurians or humanity had a chance to develop and grow. A universe which has never felt the touch of humanity.
Here are a few ideas for such a campaign:
* Obviously, such a premise would allow a completely blank slate for a campaign. After all, what other alien planets did the First Doctor and Susan flee to, to avoid the watchful eyes of the Time Lord?
* What of Mondas in this universe? Do the Cybermen still develop or without its twin does the planet die an early death?
* Without humanity, what sort of Doctor inhabits this universe? Is he more alien and aloof thanks to never witnessing the virtues and villainy of his favourite species?
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 26, 2021 20:38:17 GMT
Ooo, just thought of another. "What if the Third Doctor had fallen into Torchwood's hands and not UNITs." How would they treat him? Probably worse than UNIT, but like, would they just lock him up somewhere or would they use him for their own cases? How would he react to Torchwood as well, since Three would have no idea what caused Queen Victoria to hate him enough to set up this organisation. Would Jack show up early to try and help him escape?
Was JH a significant player in Torchwood at the time? Might he have jumped ship and gone to UNIT. That would be rather amusing....
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Post by spydalek on Oct 26, 2021 20:51:01 GMT
Ooo, just thought of another. "What if the Third Doctor had fallen into Torchwood's hands and not UNITs." How would they treat him? Probably worse than UNIT, but like, would they just lock him up somewhere or would they use him for their own cases? How would he react to Torchwood as well, since Three would have no idea what caused Queen Victoria to hate him enough to set up this organisation. Would Jack show up early to try and help him escape?
Was JH a significant player in Torchwood at the time? Might he have jumped ship and gone to UNIT. That would be rather amusing....
Looking at his wiki page, Jack was considered a freelance operative during the 70s/80s, rather than a full-time employee. He seemed to mostly be in Cardiff, but I'm sure if he heard about them capturing the Doctor, he would be intrigued enough to come up to London. |
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Post by boredeternal on Oct 26, 2021 23:19:02 GMT
What If... Omega stabilized after transferring from the Antimatter Universe within a copy of the 5th Doctor's body.
During the Arc of Infinity, Omega is given the Doctor's bio-data extract from the matrix and a fusion booster. With these, Omega creates a perfect duplicate of the Doctor's 5th body and escapes onto the streets of Amsterdam.
Here are a few ideas:
*Omega takes over The Forge and begins weaponizing early model TARDIS(s) to attack Gallifrey. The players need to infiltrate the base and stop him.
*Omega creates super soldiers to act as his gorilla warfare fighters on Gallifrey. On Gallifrey, portals open with hulking soldiers streaming out. The players either have to stop the portal generator on Earth or engage the Super Soldiers on Gallifrey.
*Gallifrey sends operatives to stop Omega. The council knows Omega will destroy Gallifrey so the players are sent to stop him.
*The Doctor creates a device to invert Omega energies back into Antimatter, then forcing him back to the other Universe.
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 27, 2021 10:34:25 GMT
Wrt the Doctor and Torchwood, perhaps like the UKGov used the Master in Harvest of Time? Locked up, shock collar et cetera. I suspect they'd try to use him, if only as part of the rivalry with UNIT. Then he'd escape them and I expect a little stress between Torchwood and UNIT.
Was JH a significant player in Torchwood at the time? Might he have jumped ship and gone to UNIT. That would be rather amusing....
Looking at his wiki page, Jack was considered a freelance operative during the 70s/80s, rather than a full-time employee. He seemed to mostly be in Cardiff, but I'm sure if he heard about them capturing the Doctor, he would be intrigued enough to come up to London.
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Post by grinch on Oct 27, 2021 17:41:54 GMT
What If... Omega stabilized after transferring from the Antimatter Universe within a copy of the 5th Doctor's body. During the Arc of Infinity, Omega is given the Doctor's bio-data extract from the matrix and a fusion booster. With these, Omega creates a perfect duplicate of the Doctor's 5th body and escapes onto the streets of Amsterdam. Here are a few ideas: *Omega takes over The Forge and begins weaponizing early model TARDIS(s) to attack Gallifrey. The players need to infiltrate the base and stop him. *Omega creates super soldiers to act as his gorilla warfare fighters on Gallifrey. On Gallifrey, portals open with hulking soldiers streaming out. The players either have to stop the portal generator on Earth or engage the Super Soldiers on Gallifrey. *Gallifrey sends operatives to stop Omega. The council knows Omega will destroy Gallifrey so the players are sent to stop him. *The Doctor creates a device to invert Omega energies back into Antimatter, then forcing him back to the other Universe. I could see the Time Lords resorting to resurrecting Rassilon when they realise Omega is steadily making his way towards Gallifrey. After all, he is still one of the founders of Time Lord society so no doubt the Time Lords would be concerned that he’d have a few loyal followers. |
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Post by boredeternal on Oct 29, 2021 18:16:38 GMT
In the vein of Marvel's What if, this had to happen.
What if… Kang the Conqueror (Nathaniel Richards) from the comics escaped into the Whoverse.
There are many times and places this could happen.
*As Rama-Tut, he crashes into the Sphinx with his Time Ship in the shape of a Sphinx. With his Time Ship damaged, and no usable technology, he starts a company in advanced technology to ultimately fix his ship.
*As the Scarlet Centurian, the newly armored time traveler takes on a Unit Base to establish himself in this new time period.
*As Kang the Conqueror, he takes over a Movellian's Battle cruise and attacks a planet known for its healing technology. Kang needs the tech to save his beloved Ravonna.
He could quickly become a temporal adversary.
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Post by grinch on Oct 29, 2021 20:55:12 GMT
In the vein of Marvel's What if, this had to happen. What if… Kang the Conqueror (Nathaniel Richards) from the comics escaped into the Whoverse. There are many times and places this could happen. *As Rama-Tut, he crashes into the Sphinx with his Time Ship in the shape of a Sphinx. With his Time Ship damaged, and no usable technology, he starts a company in advanced technology to ultimately fix his ship. *As the Scarlet Centurian, the newly armored time traveler takes on a Unit Base to establish himself in this new time period. *As Kang the Conqueror, he takes over a Movellian's Battle cruise and attacks a planet known for its healing technology. Kang needs the tech to save his beloved Ravonna. He could quickly become a temporal adversary. Interesting. I’m imagining we follow a lone Time Agent who is trying to track down this interloper from another universe and all his versions of himself brought on by his time travelling. Only for the Time Agent to realise that due to his actions pursuing Kang, he has without realising it changed his own personal history to the point where he has become this universes version of Kang! The Time Agent can only despair as he comes to the realisation that he is trapped within his own continuum. He has become a man without a consistent past or future and must resign himself to his fate. Only for the Time Agency to send out another agent to track down this ‘new’ Kang which has suddenly appeared out of the Time Vortex from seemingly nowhere... |
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 31, 2021 11:40:21 GMT
What If... Omega stabilized after transferring from the Antimatter Universe within a copy of the 5th Doctor's body. During the Arc of Infinity, Omega is given the Doctor's bio-data extract from the matrix and a fusion booster. With these, Omega creates a perfect duplicate of the Doctor's 5th body and escapes onto the streets of Amsterdam. Here are a few ideas: *Omega takes over The Forge and begins weaponizing early model TARDIS(s) to attack Gallifrey. The players need to infiltrate the base and stop him. *Omega creates super soldiers to act as his gorilla warfare fighters on Gallifrey. On Gallifrey, portals open with hulking soldiers streaming out. The players either have to stop the portal generator on Earth or engage the Super Soldiers on Gallifrey. *Gallifrey sends operatives to stop Omega. The council knows Omega will destroy Gallifrey so the players are sent to stop him. *The Doctor creates a device to invert Omega energies back into Antimatter, then forcing him back to the other Universe. I could see the Time Lords resorting to resurrecting Rassilon when they realise Omega is steadily making his way towards Gallifrey. After all, he is still one of the founders of Time Lord society so no doubt the Time Lords would be concerned that he’d have a few loyal followers.
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