Jago and Litefoot/Torchwood connection?

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Does anyone think that Jago and Litefoot ever interacted with Torchwood during their investigations? After all, all the alien threats to the Empire they managed to thwart I would have thought would have drawn their attention. Obviously, they might not have been recruited as agents due to their age but I could see the pair perhaps meeting the occasional undercover agent. Whether or not they ever met Captain Jack is, of course, another point of speculation. (Mind you, I would have loved to see the likes of Henry Gordon Jago meet the likes of Captain Jack. An Immortal would make for a great box office for the theatre) What do you all think? Any theories or personal headcanon on that front? Any that might make for good adventures for potential players> I’ve often always wondered what happened to Jago and Litefoot during their final days. Perhaps the secrets to them shuffling off their respective mortal coil is also contained within a Torchwood file somewhere.  Or perhaps, just perhaps, they are still out there somewhere solving mysteries alongside their dear friend Ellie. On some alien world or parallel universe. After all, anything is possible.

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Mar 17, 2019 0:06:26 GMT grinch said:

Does anyone think that Jago and Litefoot ever interacted with Torchwood during their investigations? After all, all the alien threats to the Empire they managed to thwart I would have thought would have drawn their attention. Obviously, they might not have been recruited as agents due to their age but I could see the pair perhaps meeting the occasional undercover agent. Whether or not they ever met Captain Jack is, of course, another point of speculation. (Mind you, I would have loved to see the likes of Henry Gordon Jago meet the likes of Captain Jack. An Immortal would make for a great box office for the theatre) What do you all think? Any theories or personal headcanon on that front? Any that might make for good adventures for potential players> I’ve often always wondered what happened to Jago and Litefoot during their final days. Perhaps the secrets to them shuffling off their respective mortal coil is also contained within a Torchwood file somewhere.  Or perhaps, just perhaps, they are still out there somewhere solving mysteries alongside their dear friend Ellie. On some alien world or parallel universe. After all, anything is possible.

One connection that ties Jago & Litefoot alongside Torchwood is The Scorchies. Both have faced them in audio dramas although while Jago & Litefoot had a whole audio story about them fighting against the mad Muppet-like monsters, Torchwood is a bit more of a "doze off and you'll miss it moments." In the audio story "Broken" as seen in Series 2 of the Torchwood Series,

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Jack and Ianto go to the Millennium Centre where they encounter something that Ianto explains look like puppets. They are able to somehow burn the beings with a flamethrower, and Jack mentions that "they've tried before, and will try again."

Now whether or not

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Jack was present at either events in any of his lifetimes, is debatable. However, there is no reason why he couldn't be tracking down some loose-end Scorchies throughout the previous appearances. Perhaps jumping from place (or scene) to place (or scene), following the various musical numbers with his divine voice. Because let's face it, I still think we need a DW Musical Episode that includes Captain Jack especially after all the concerts John Barrowman has done. It'd also be a great adventure since the Jack in the adventure could be either A) Before his mind was wiped, B) After The Doctor and Rose left him behind and he had to wait, or C) After he met The Doctor and Martha during the events of Utopia/The Sound of Drums/The Last of the Time Lords (and either before or after the events of Miracle Day and the Titan Comics series.)

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There's also the Paternoster Gang to throw into the mix. I imagine that Madame Vastra would have to work hard to keep her and Strax out of sight of Torchwood, who would presumably want to keep them incarcerated... or worse.

[olegrand]

Mar 17, 2019 0:06:26 GMT grinch said:

Does anyone think that Jago and Litefoot ever interacted with Torchwood during their investigations? After all, all the alien threats to the Empire they managed to thwart I would have thought would have drawn their attention. Obviously, they might not have been recruited as agents due to their age but I could see the pair perhaps meeting the occasional undercover agent. Whether or not they ever met Captain Jack is, of course, another point of speculation. (Mind you, I would have loved to see the likes of Henry Gordon Jago meet the likes of Captain Jack. An Immortal would make for a great box office for the theatre) What do you all think? Any theories or personal headcanon on that front? Any that might make for good adventures for potential players> I’ve often always wondered what happened to Jago and Litefoot during their final days. Perhaps the secrets to them shuffling off their respective mortal coil is also contained within a Torchwood file somewhere.  Or perhaps, just perhaps, they are still out there somewhere solving mysteries alongside their dear friend Ellie. On some alien world or parallel universe. After all, anything is possible.

Well, here is how I handled this in my campaign, where Victorian London tended to be a frequent destination (I'm using the past tense not because the campaign is over but because the beloved Jago and Litefoot have now relocated on the planet Avalon, the new home of the Doctor and his Time Lord renegades / dissidents - but it's another story) :

I more or less treated Torchwood as the equivalent of Scotland Yard in the Sherlock Holmes stories, with the Torchwood people treating our two investigators of infernal incidents as "amateurs", "irregulars" or even "dilettantes"; some of the Torchwood personnel saw them as a nuisance (especially the bumbling and bombastic Jago , while others did not hesitate to use their expertise (in an unofficial capacity, of course) as, well, "consulting detectives" of the weird.

Conversely, Jago and Litefoot (especially Jago, in fact, since Pr. Litefoot was more used to working with law-enforcement etc.) tended to see Torchwood as something of a necessity but as a somewhat rigid, bureaucratic institution whose members often found it difficult to "think outside the box" (the "box" in question including Torchwood's very mission, as opposed to the more "freestyle" approach of the dynamic duo). I also mentioned Litefoot doing some special post-mortems for Torchwood.

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Mar 19, 2019 11:58:33 GMT olegrand said:

Mar 17, 2019 0:06:26 GMT grinch said:

Does anyone think that Jago and Litefoot ever interacted with Torchwood during their investigations? After all, all the alien threats to the Empire they managed to thwart I would have thought would have drawn their attention. Obviously, they might not have been recruited as agents due to their age but I could see the pair perhaps meeting the occasional undercover agent. Whether or not they ever met Captain Jack is, of course, another point of speculation. (Mind you, I would have loved to see the likes of Henry Gordon Jago meet the likes of Captain Jack. An Immortal would make for a great box office for the theatre) What do you all think? Any theories or personal headcanon on that front? Any that might make for good adventures for potential players> I’ve often always wondered what happened to Jago and Litefoot during their final days. Perhaps the secrets to them shuffling off their respective mortal coil is also contained within a Torchwood file somewhere.  Or perhaps, just perhaps, they are still out there somewhere solving mysteries alongside their dear friend Ellie. On some alien world or parallel universe. After all, anything is possible.

Well, here is how I handled this in my campaign, where Victorian London tended to be a frequent destination (I'm using the past tense not because the campaign is over but because the beloved Jago and Litefoot have now relocated on the planet Avalon, the new home of the Doctor and his Time Lord renegades / dissidents - but it's another story) :

I more or less treated Torchwood as the equivalent of Scotland Yard in the Sherlock Holmes stories, with the Torchwood people treating our two investigators of infernal incidents as "amateurs", "irregulars" or even "dilettantes"; some of the Torchwood personnel saw them as a nuisance (especially the bumbling and bombastic Jago , while others did not hesitate to use their expertise (in an unofficial capacity, of course) as, well, "consulting detectives" of the weird.

Conversely, Jago and Litefoot (especially Jago, in fact, since Pr. Litefoot was more used to working with law-enforcement etc.) tended to see Torchwood as something of a necessity but as a somewhat rigid, bureaucratic institution whose members often found it difficult to "think outside the box" (the "box" in question including Torchwood's very mission, as opposed to the more "freestyle" approach of the dynamic duo). I also mentioned Litefoot doing some special post-mortems for Torchwood.

That is the greatest thing I have ever heard. Pretty much how I would have imagined their interactions to be. Torchwood can't exactly get rid of them for what they know as not only are they practically experts in their field but they've always thwarted a great many threats to the British Empire. Did Jago and Litefoot ever encounter or hear of the mysterious Captain Jack Harkness? I'm sure as a pathologist he would have been fascinated with the idea of him being completely immortal. Jago might have also seen the potential and novelty in billing him at the Regency as 'The Man Who Couldn't Die' or 'The Modern Day Lazarus' (Speaking of Jack as an attraction, now I wish there was a story where the elderly Jago and Litefoot investigate stories of the mysterious Circus Troupe The Night Travellers in 1920s Britain. Seems right up their street.)

I do love the fact that they've relocated off world. Makes perfect sense in established canon as well what with their fates being unknown. (Aside from Jago being regarded as a legendary theatre manager who died sometime before the Second World War.) Could imagine him setting up a new Theatre alongside more literal alien acts. Aliens from all species would flock to his theatre as his reputation grew. Simply Marvellous.