Rassilon
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Post by Rassilon on Aug 30, 2012 16:21:10 GMT
What did you think?
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Post by Craig Oxbrow on Aug 30, 2012 19:57:09 GMT
Having seen it in the Edinburgh preview screening, I really enjoyed it, particularly the [REDACTED] and the [REDACTED] and the bit where [REDACTED]!
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Post by Eryx on Sept 1, 2012 21:07:29 GMT
I thought it was awesome. Just the right mix of sci-fi goodness and humour.
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Post by Escher on Sept 1, 2012 22:33:30 GMT
I thought Oswin was annoying at first and did think she might have been something other than what she appeared to be. Then, the clever script dispelled that and the final twist was doubly unexpected and made her into a great character.
It will be interesting to see how The Doc manages to get her aboard.
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Post by ugavine on Sept 1, 2012 23:01:06 GMT
Absolutely Brilliant. Loved it.
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Post by CharlieBananas on Sept 1, 2012 23:51:17 GMT
Truly superb, and what a great surprise to have Oswin in on ep 1, looks like the Doctor is going to be a very naughty boy.
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Post by Escher on Sept 2, 2012 2:06:16 GMT
And how cool is that? To have a DALEK as a companion? I have a personal joy in seeing this because when the Aliens & Creatures book was first out some people were rubbishing the idea of an alien as a companion. Then we had Auton Rory, a Silurian Lady in Victorian England, a Sontaran nurse on probation and now possibly...a Dalek. Ha! As credible roleplaying opportunites, the sky's the limit.
It's going to be interesting to see how the Doc manages to get her out of that shell and into a human body. Hologram? Clone? Can't wait to see.
Did anyone else also notice the bit where Clara Oswin says "don't forget me" then looks directly at the viewers? I'm betting she was looking at someone else who popped in to save her...
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Post by da professor on Sept 2, 2012 8:31:48 GMT
Loved Oswin. How will the Doctor get her out of that? Or will she do it herself? Answers to follow...maybe. Well played, Mr Moffat.
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Post by Rel Fexive on Sept 2, 2012 16:52:53 GMT
That was pretty damn good viewing. As for Oswin... do we know for sure that Oswin is the character played by Jenna-Louise Coleman who will be the companion? Or will she actually be playing someone else come Christmas? Or will they both be her somehow? Hopefully Moffatt already knows the answers Just wanted to add.... there's been some terrible spoilers in image form posted on Facebook. Sure, the episode has been shown, but that's no excuse for giving away the two biggest spoilers in the episode in clear view on the main FB page for anyone to see. I'm glad I decided not to go there at all before I watched it about an hour ago.
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Post by Craig Oxbrow on Sept 2, 2012 16:56:05 GMT
The answer is... "maybe".
To all of those.
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Roger
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Post by Roger on Sept 2, 2012 18:38:04 GMT
That was pretty damn good viewing. As for Oswin... do we know for sure that Oswin is the character played by Jenna-Louise Coleman who will be the companion? Or will she actually be playing someone else come Christmas? Or will they both be her somehow? Hopefully Moffatt already knows the answers Exactly. I don't know why a lot of people are assuming she will be the same character. There are other possibilities. I do like the 'camera wink' idea. That could be it. It looked like the chair was the same as Jenny's chair too. That gets you thinking also.
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Post by Rel Fexive on Sept 2, 2012 19:11:12 GMT
I think the chair thing is just a reuse of an existing prop, nothing more. I think it's completely ridiculous to think it means anything. But who knows?
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Post by Kit on Sept 3, 2012 7:01:46 GMT
I've been told the new companion's name is Clara Oswin. I'm wondering if she is Oswin Oswald's mother.
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Post by Kit on Sept 3, 2012 9:47:21 GMT
Oh my. what do we make of this? Who/what is the hooded figure?
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Post by Escher on Sept 3, 2012 18:15:55 GMT
I've been told the new companion's name is Clara Oswin. I'm wondering if she is Oswin Oswald's mother. Curiously, Jenna-Louise Coleman is no longer listed on the credits for the episode on the BBC iPlayer site and she was credited as... Clara Oswin. I can confirm this because when I made my post on here I double-checked her name and she was listed on the credits as Clara. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00wqr14/Doctor_Who_Series_7_Asylum_of_the_Daleks/
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Post by Rel Fexive on Sept 3, 2012 18:55:36 GMT
Oh my. what do we make of this? Who/what is the hooded figure? It's about the message that the Doctor was sent to get him to Skaro. Nothing can really be drawn from it as it was in all likelihood nothing more than mysterious for the sake of grabbing the Doctor's attention. Until we know otherwise, anyway
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Post by Rel Fexive on Sept 3, 2012 18:56:41 GMT
I've been told the new companion's name is Clara Oswin. I'm wondering if she is Oswin Oswald's mother. Curiously, Jenna-Louise Coleman is no longer listed on the credits for the episode on the BBC iPlayer site and she was credited as... Clara Oswin. I can confirm this because when I made my post on here I double-checked her name and she was listed on the credits as Clara. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00wqr14/Doctor_Who_Series_7_Asylum_of_the_Daleks/ To be honest, I suspect it's just an overzealous person getting it wrong as she almost certainly isn't the same person. Until we hear otherwise of course....
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Post by Kit on Sept 4, 2012 1:47:31 GMT
Oh my. what do we make of this? Who/what is the hooded figure? It's about the message that the Doctor was sent to get him to Skaro. Nothing can really be drawn from it as it was in all likelihood nothing more than mysterious for the sake of grabbing the Doctor's attention. Until we know otherwise, anyway you dont find a mysterious hooded figure who can interfere with the doctor's mind interesting? I'm thinking its more significant than just 'go run the errand for the daleks'
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Post by cliffordjones on Sept 4, 2012 5:31:15 GMT
To be honest, I suspect it's just an overzealous person getting it wrong as she almost certainly isn't the same person. Until we hear otherwise of course.... Whilst it does seem more likely that the two characters will turn out to be relatives it would be interesting if they were the same person. The Doctor would know that his companion's timeline led her to the awful fate in Asylum and would have to decide what he was prepared to do about it.
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Post by sirus on Sept 4, 2012 15:52:55 GMT
Ok, I hadn't seen the prequel. WOW, is all I have to say to it. What got me is that the language the hooded figure used was obviously really advanced Gallifreyan, which leads me to believe it's one of the time lords, my bet is on one of the really really old ones.
Either way I felt the episode was good, but not great. It didn't have me on the edge of my seat like "The Impossible Astronaut" and it wasn't as enthralling as "The Eleventh Hour."
I had pretty high hopes when I heard that the "old" design for the daleks was going to be used. All I really saw was the 2005 era Dalek design, maybe a bit modified, but none of the really old dalek designs.
I guess I can cope with that, but to be honest I'm used to the first episode dropping these epic hints for what's to come and really complex foreshadowing.
Oh well, on to episode 2 when it comes out.
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Post by Rel Fexive on Sept 4, 2012 18:20:25 GMT
you dont find a mysterious hooded figure who can interfere with the doctor's mind interesting? I'm thinking its more significant than just 'go run the errand for the daleks' Ok, I hadn't seen the prequel. WOW, is all I ave to say to it. What got me is that the language the hooded figure used was obviously really advanced Gallifreyan, which leads me to believe it's one of the time lords, my bet is on one of the really really old ones. We don't know if the mysterious hooded figure is even an individual entity in its own right or not. It could be nothing more than the dream version of the text of an email, the interactive element of the dream message. Or it just just be "that guy who does dream messages" that the Daleks hired through seven levels of cutout. Best not to assume it means anything in the absence of further information, especially when you consider that we only saw it via a very limited availability source (before it got onto YouTube, anyway). As with anything, though, I could be proven wrong... though the fact that it is something (relatively) very few people will have seen means it is likely to be ultimately insignificant beyond fan theory and fanfic Keep watching to find out! Whilst it does seem more likely that the two characters will turn out to be relatives it would be interesting if they were the same person. The Doctor would know that his companion's timeline led her to the awful fate in Asylum and would have to decide what he was prepared to do about it. Since we've pretty much seen that already with River, I think they'd be asking for trouble if they did almost exactly same thing again. Best to hope things are much simpler this time. I had pretty high hopes when I heard that the "old" design for the daleks was going to be used. All I really saw was the 2005 era Dalek design, maybe a bit modified, but none of the really old dalek designs. Every old design of Dalek really was there, just check this handy spotter's guide.
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Post by cliffordjones on Sept 4, 2012 20:22:50 GMT
Best to hope things are much simpler this time. Yes indeed. I'm a bit timey wimeyed out. A nice little run of monster-of-the-weeks would suit me just fine.
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Post by korith on Sept 6, 2012 13:05:16 GMT
Really enjoyed this, particularly the twists at the end, like when the Doctor stuck his head out of the TARDIS
Also, isn't silence supposed to fall now?
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Post by imajica on Sept 6, 2012 15:19:49 GMT
Cracking dialogue, great ideas. Only let down by one thing and I won't mention that as it's circumventable through the wonder of time travel. How long before someone wants to play a Dalek PC?
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Post by Curufea on Sept 7, 2012 4:32:08 GMT
Did anyone else also notice the bit where Clara Oswin says "don't forget me" then looks directly at the viewers? I'm betting she was looking at someone else who popped in to save her... In noticed that - and rewound the iView ep to show my wife it In the ep though she does call herself Oswin Osgood. I would be surprised if the Doctor rescued a copy or ancestor and not this character - this character has all the ideal qualities he looks for in a companion - he loved her from the moment he heard she fought Daleks with soufflés. The prime aspect being of course that she martyred herself for others - for complete strangers in fact. It's also clinched by her telling the Doctor to "Run" which mirrors the first words the Ninth Doctor said to Rose. Cracking dialogue, great ideas. Only let down by one thing and I won't mention that as it's circumventable through the wonder of time travel. How long before someone wants to play a Dalek PC? One of the first replies to my blog entry about first getting the DWAITAS game where I asked friends if they were interested in playing - was one of my friends wanting to play a Dalek link to comment on blog
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Post by Corone on Sept 8, 2012 13:24:06 GMT
One of the first replies to my blog entry about first getting the DWAITAS game where I asked friends if they were interested in playing - was one of my friends wanting to play a Dalek link to comment on blogIts tricky one, and there was precedent for a 'good Dalek' as early as the Eccleston episode 'Dalek'. The tricky thing is though that you'd need a lot more character points than anyone else to create one. Also, given the Dalek's reputation, the mere sight of one would have people running away and screaming wherever they went. What fool would want to get to know a Dalek before deciding whether to run or not? :-)
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Post by garethl on Sept 9, 2012 7:34:33 GMT
It was better than most previous episodes, but the plot holes were so big . The forcefield and the crashed cruiseship, a few daleks could easily take care of things in the asylum with maybe the exception of Dalek Oswin, why did they need the doctor? Why did they have an asylum in the first place, it seems un-Daleky? That said, I enjoyed the episode, but it isn't one of the best.
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Post by Curufea on Sept 9, 2012 10:27:49 GMT
The Dalek prime minister explains why they had the Asylum. I'm not sure how the cruise ship got through the forcefield though.
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Post by Rel Fexive on Sept 9, 2012 11:18:30 GMT
They never really explained how it got through, just that they didn't know how. And that, as the Doctor put it, "if something can get in then everything can get out". Which is why the Predator had to be deployed.
(I just watched it again - I think it's even better the second time around)
And just because it is possible to deactivate the forcefield from within doesn't mean there's a big easy switch for it, or that it wouldn't take someone like the Doctor or Oswin!Dalek to do it.
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Post by Curufea on Sept 10, 2012 3:50:07 GMT
True - plus based on the innacuracy of the transporter beam used by the Daleks, the forcefield modifies the direction of anything hitting it - and they could have ended up on the other side of the planet to the forcefield controls. So it could have taken them months to get to the controls (years if they had to walk).
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