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Post by thebrokenone on Dec 17, 2009 0:04:43 GMT
Peta would make an interesting new take on Romana if they decided to revisit that character.
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Post by JohnK on Dec 17, 2009 4:06:16 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, My problem is that Peta always comes across in the characters she plays as too competent in the roles, either because of her look or maturity as an actor, I'm not sure which. Well, frankly, if I were her boss in Superman Returns I'd have sacked her That was just a case of bad casting, and I never could figure out why she took that part (other than the money, of course).
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Post by slant on Jan 4, 2010 17:32:42 GMT
Like others, I'd love to see the return of the zygons. Other things I want to see are:
A new Romana, even if as a villain.
Sally Sparrow.
A Doctor with a more alien outlook.
A massive and intricate plotline that spans the whole season.
A companion with some negative character traits (greed, cowardice, lust) who still manages to be heroic.
Some things I don't want to see:
Any more of the Doctor mooning over Rose.
Gratuitious cameos from past companions.
Excessively goofy aliens.
Plots that rely far too much on coincidence.
Just my two cents.
-Doc
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Post by Rel Fexive on Jan 4, 2010 18:03:10 GMT
Like others, I'd love to see the return of the zygons. Other things I want to see are: A new Romana, even if as a villain. Sally Sparrow. A Doctor with a more alien outlook. A massive and intricate plotline that spans the whole season. A companion with some negative character traits (greed, cowardice, lust) who still manages to be heroic. Some things I don't want to see: Any more of the Doctor mooning over Rose. Gratuitious cameos from past companions. Excessively goofy aliens. Plots that rely far too much on coincidence. Just my two cents. -Doc Well, Carey Mulligan is busy having a potentially Oscar-nominated acting career, so sadly no Sally Sparrow I should think. Judging by the end of The End Of Time I don't think we'll see any of the previous companions (and associates) again. But I guess you never know. Same goes for Rose - by the looks of it we should be done with her now. Probably no goofy aliens either. But again, can't be sure. As long as we don't have any more designed by children we'll be fine... I can't speak for the rest.
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Post by joe2001 on Jan 10, 2010 14:13:21 GMT
So, what do you hope season 5 will bring to the table? What do you want to see dumped? For me, I'd like to see new villains (not just relying on the Daleks to be the season big bad), and less of the companion's family Frankly, if we skipped the Daleks and Pete's world Cybermen for a season or two, I'd be happy. Plus, I want to go at least two seasons without changing Doctor or companions. If we are going to revitalize old Who aliens/threats, I'd like to see Silurians and Sea Devils [and give them proper names please] as well as Ice Warriors and Ice Lords [who also need proper names] Yeah I agree - getting a bit fed up with Daleks & Cybermen ( except if they brought back the proper Cybermen... ).
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Post by ugavine on Jan 19, 2010 12:43:13 GMT
Having just read Stephen Moffatt's Production Notes in DWM I have to say that what I really want to see is Season Fnarg! It sounds amazing, I just want to see it.
I've never really gone in for the whole 'I want to see this' because it just makes me dissappointed when it doesn't happen.
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Post by Curufea on Jan 20, 2010 0:09:14 GMT
But it gives us something to speculate about before it starts
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Post by JohnK on Jan 20, 2010 17:49:16 GMT
Hullo, Curufea, But it gives us something to speculate about before it starts Speculation is all well and good, but from what I've heard there are BBC folks who read these forums, so one has to be careful what one speculates about for Series 5/31, lest story ideas are you-know-what.
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Post by kaemaril on Jan 20, 2010 20:23:36 GMT
so one has to be careful what one speculates about for Series 5/31, lest story ideas are you-know-what. Season 5 will already have been locked in, with filming starting quite some time ago. Season 6, on the other hand ...
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Post by Curufea on Jan 20, 2010 21:35:05 GMT
The BBC folk that read these forums won't be anyone that has any influence on scripts. It will more likely be someone at the office who mentioned in passing that they have occasionally looked at blogs and forums, and been dobbed in to monitor this place as well as whatever their usual job is (I suspect not legal, as they have more important uses for their time). If I know my government departments When it comes to web2.0 - doing a course and applying it in a piecemeal fashion without resources is par for the course.
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Post by JohnK on Jan 20, 2010 22:01:23 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, so one has to be careful what one speculates about for Series 5/31, lest story ideas are you-know-what. Season 5 will already have been locked in, with filming starting quite some time ago. Season 6, on the other hand ... Exactly. We have to remember at times that this is a licensed show that we're talking about and all, and while the important folks may not be reading these posts, someone certainly will who will draw attention to the folks in charge if the need be. And we don't want to jeopardise our own forums, now do we?
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Post by JohnK on Jan 20, 2010 22:11:25 GMT
Hullo, Curufea, The BBC folk that read these forums won't be anyone that has any influence on scripts. It will more likely be someone at the office who mentioned in passing that they have occasionally looked at blogs and forums, and been dobbed in to monitor this place as well as whatever their usual job is (I suspect not legal, as they have more important uses for their time). If I know my government departments When it comes to web2.0 - doing a course and applying it in a piecemeal fashion without resources is par for the course. While you are likely right about this, mate, just bear in mind that the BBC are very protective of Doctor Who and the rights to the series and all that good stuff. They do seem to keep track of a lot of different things pertaining to the series and all, and we do have to be protective of the forums and not losing them due to some sheer happenstance mistake. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by kaemaril on Jan 20, 2010 23:39:14 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, Season 5 will already have been locked in, with filming starting quite some time ago. Season 6, on the other hand ... Exactly. We have to remember at times that this is a licensed show that we're talking about and all, and while the important folks may not be reading these posts, someone certainly will who will draw attention to the folks in charge if the need be. And we don't want to jeopardise our own forums, now do we? Jeopardise? How? As long as everything is legal there's not a problem. Speculation is not yet an offence.
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Post by JohnK on Jan 21, 2010 0:06:12 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, Exactly. We have to remember at times that this is a licensed show that we're talking about and all, and while the important folks may not be reading these posts, someone certainly will who will draw attention to the folks in charge if the need be. And we don't want to jeopardise our own forums, now do we? Jeopardise? How? As long as everything is legal there's not a problem. Speculation is not yet an offence. While that's true, the Beeb has been known with some of its licenses to take offense at the merest things. Just sayin' is all.
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Post by kaemaril on Jan 21, 2010 0:18:05 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, Jeopardise? How? As long as everything is legal there's not a problem. Speculation is not yet an offence. While that's true, the Beeb has been known with some of its licenses to take offense at the merest things. Just sayin' is all. I'm still not entirely sure what you're saying. Speculation about season 5/6 would be bad because ... the BBC would what? 'Take offence'? What does that mean? Revoke the site's license? The site does not have a license. It doesn't need one (though, in a pinch, I'd strongly suggest changing the logo 'cos that's pretty blatant ... )
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Post by JohnK on Jan 21, 2010 15:44:34 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, While that's true, the Beeb has been known with some of its licenses to take offense at the merest things. Just sayin' is all. I'm still not entirely sure what you're saying. Speculation about season 5/6 would be bad because ... the BBC would what? 'Take offence'? What does that mean? Revoke the site's license? The site does not have a license. It doesn't need one (though, in a pinch, I'd strongly suggest changing the logo 'cos that's pretty blatant ... ) The Beeb has been known to take offense at some of the slightest provcation, and have been known to get websites closed down for very little. What I'm saying is that we don't want to irritate or annoy the Powers That Be. But let's just forget about this whole element of discussion and all.
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Post by kaemaril on Jan 22, 2010 0:51:43 GMT
Hello, johnk. The Beeb has been known to take offense at some of the slightest provcation, and have been known to get websites closed down for very little. What I'm saying is that we don't want to irritate or annoy the Powers That Be. But let's just forget about this whole element of discussion and all. Copyright violation, libel/slander, trademark infringement, 'passing off', domain squatting, revealing confidential commercial information, patent violation ... Are we doing any of those? If we're doing any of those the BBC has legitimate cause for concern, and would be well within their rights to complain. Otherwise ... The BBC has no legitimate cause to 'take offence', 'be irritated by' or 'annoyed by' this site, and their legal department will be well aware of it. Absent this I can only assume that what's got you so worried is the 'JMS scenario'? If that is your concern then I can only say, with no hint of hyperbole, that very large portions of the content of this site would need to be removed, not just this thread. It's not just the BBC you have to worry about, it's Cubicle 7. Viewing write-ups of, for example, Zygons or the Third Doctor, could open them up to legal difficulties.
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Post by JohnK on Jan 22, 2010 15:30:06 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, Absent this I can only assume that what's got you so worried is the 'JMS scenario'? Yeah, to be honest, that was part of it. And the fact that the Beeb has been known to be extremely protective of the Doctor Who stuff over the years and all that. Bear in mind that North American copyright laws and all of the stuff that goes along with it are different than those of the British Commonwealth. And Goddess only knows how stuff is interpreted in the World Rights or whatever the Beeb calls it in countries other than Britain, the U.S., and Canada where the show airs and all. However, aside from that, I'm sorry I brought the whole topic up. In the meantime, can we just get back to enjoying the game and talking about the game? I'll leave the discussion for this thread up to those who want to discuss it, and be happy with that. Zygons? No one's statted up the Zygons yet? I can't since I don't have "Terror of the Zygons" on DVD or even VHS for that matter.
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Post by allivingstone on Jan 22, 2010 15:39:27 GMT
Absent this I can only assume that what's got you so worried is the 'JMS scenario'? What's the story with that? Do you have a link? Fan-produced content should be fine, shouldn't it? Fair use and all that. Or are you making reference to the original dictates of the RTD-era licence for the game? As I understand it, The Grand Moff (praisehisname), has opened up everything prior to 2005 as well. I'm not trying to drag out this discussion btw, just to get a grasp on what is being talked about.
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Post by kaemaril on Jan 22, 2010 19:34:34 GMT
Absent this I can only assume that what's got you so worried is the 'JMS scenario'? What's the story with that? Do you have a link? Sure. Here you go. In theory, any BBC 'reader' could hit problems similar to the 'Passing through Gethsemane' situation ... However ... In theory C7 are susceptible to exactly the same problem if they visit this site for anything they might do. Suppose a write-up of the Third Doctor by poster X is uncomfortably close to the C7 version of the Third Doctor? Or suppose an adventure seed on this site is a bit too close to something they come up with on one of their books? It could cause some difficulties...
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Post by allivingstone on Jan 22, 2010 21:24:49 GMT
Thanks Kaemaril. It all makes a twisted kind of sense now. Sadly, it all gets a lot more complicated and legalistic once money is involved.
I'm put in mind of a cartoon I saw once, about what the world would be like if lawyers didn't exist.
Person #1: I'm selling my house. Would you like to buy it? Person #2: OK.
;D
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Post by JohnK on Jan 22, 2010 21:34:52 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, In theory C7 are susceptible to exactly the same problem if they visit this site for anything they might do. Suppose a write-up of the Third Doctor by poster X is uncomfortably close to the C7 version of the Third Doctor? Or suppose an adventure seed on this site is a bit too close to something they come up with on one of their books? It could cause some difficulties... All I want to say here is that if such a thing were to occur with my Third Doctor or the Jo Grant write-up, I like to think that the folks at C7 might decide to use the character or whatever and give me credit for it. That said, if someone said to me that the post had to come down, I wouldn't have a problem with it (other than the time it took me to do the write-up).
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Post by kaemaril on Jan 22, 2010 23:08:31 GMT
All I want to say here is that if such a thing were to occur with my Third Doctor or the Jo Grant write-up, I like to think that the folks at C7 might decide to use the character or whatever and give me credit for it. That said, if someone said to me that the post had to come down, I wouldn't have a problem with it (other than the time it took me to do the write-up). Unfortunately, that doesn't help much in the JMS/Gethsemane scenario. The fan who JMS had to get the release from was a nice bloke who was a big fan and bent over backward to help JMS out. It was the legal risk of What if the guy's a complete dick that forced the need for a release, and delayed the production of the episode by a season.
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Post by JohnK on Jan 23, 2010 15:26:47 GMT
Hullo, Kaemaril, All I want to say here is that if such a thing were to occur with my Third Doctor or the Jo Grant write-up, I like to think that the folks at C7 might decide to use the character or whatever and give me credit for it. That said, if someone said to me that the post had to come down, I wouldn't have a problem with it (other than the time it took me to do the write-up). Unfortunately, that doesn't help much in the JMS/Gethsemane scenario. The fan who JMS had to get the release from was a nice bloke who was a big fan and bent over backward to help JMS out. It was the legal risk of What if the guy's a complete dick that forced the need for a release, and delayed the production of the episode by a season. This is a situation that I'm sure has happened with other shows and the like, I'm sure, but we just haven't heard about them. That said, I like to think that the BBC and/or Cubicle 7 would be reasonable with us about this stuff. After all, we're all fans of the show, and just engaging our creative sides in regard to the thing that we all love.
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Post by Yodelero on Jan 24, 2010 1:00:51 GMT
I just want them to bring Romana back.
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Post by kaemaril on Jan 24, 2010 1:44:30 GMT
I just want them to bring Romana back. Which one? President Romana or E-space Romana?
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Post by Curufea on Jan 24, 2010 6:03:32 GMT
There's a thought- Karen Gillan as Romana turned human.
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Post by da professor on Feb 17, 2010 17:45:54 GMT
Makes more sense than the Donna Noble regenerates rumour I heard, but unlikely imho.
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Post by Craig Oxbrow on Feb 17, 2010 20:44:23 GMT
It may be possible that two redheaded women are actually different people.
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Post by colinchapman on Feb 27, 2010 1:42:59 GMT
I wanted to see the return of Silurians and Sea Devils, and so when I heard they were returning, and saw this in the new Season 5 trailer, I grinned, especially with the new sucker-shaped gun as well:
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