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Post by omega on May 28, 2010 17:51:31 GMT
What did you think?
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Post by CharlieBananas on May 29, 2010 20:05:59 GMT
I really thought it was a great episode, not much I could fault. The only thing about this season that is starting to jar me is the music, not the main theme I quite like that, but rather the music within each episode. For my taste it's coming across too strong and gets more than a little distracting.
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Post by traveller61 on May 29, 2010 20:31:00 GMT
I thought it was good (and voted that way) and I must admit the the fate of Rory came as a big surprise Apart from that - good SFX, and I thought that the Silurians were done very well (especially their city) but I would have liked them a little more like the old ones rather than the more human-like versions we see. However I must admit that the new ones are a lot sexier that the originals ;D DW
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Post by ghostdragon on May 29, 2010 22:26:56 GMT
Probably the best episode of the season so far. It's been bugging me all night who played the lead Silurian.
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Post by omega on May 30, 2010 6:32:30 GMT
a good episode made great by the Rory incident and the debris pulled through the crack... I'm intrigued to see how this set-up for the season finale will turn out.
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Post by Craig Oxbrow on May 30, 2010 10:50:30 GMT
Well, can't like 'em all.
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Post by Eryx on May 30, 2010 10:57:14 GMT
Much like the first half of this story, I voted ok.
Again the story didn't go anywhere, which I found dissapointing.
The bumping off of Rory was the highlight of the episode for me. Just a shame I can see them bringing him back.
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Post by traveller61 on May 31, 2010 20:19:28 GMT
One thing bugging me now - why did Amy forget Rory after he was consumed by the crack? After all she had no trouble remembering the Church soldiers that suffered the same fate on the Bellerophon.
Plot hole or deliberate act?
DW
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Post by Eryx on May 31, 2010 22:17:24 GMT
One thing bugging me now - why did Amy forget Rory after he was consumed by the crack? After all she had no trouble remembering the Church soldiers that suffered the same fate on the Bellerophon. Plot hole or deliberate act? Right or wrong, I got the impression that his memory is stored inside Amy at this point until the Doctor can fathom out what is going on.
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Post by Curufea on Jun 1, 2010 3:05:38 GMT
The Silurians were basically just filler for the crack in the wall mystery. A waste of a decent race. I kept seeing Babylon 5 with green Narns. Although it was good seeing Marvin the paranoid android in a lizard skin I'm a bit annoyed with the recurring theme of humanity being morally un-evolved, barbaric or lacking in wisdom. It was okay in The Christmas Invasion, slightly annoying in various 10th Doctor eps, getting wearing in Starship UK and just annoying in Cold Blood. She didn't even express her motivations very well. The director said "you're desperate, do something stupid" without realising the story should give reason, justifications and motivations and her character should be conflicted. She was far too shallow.
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Post by rev503 on Jun 1, 2010 8:03:18 GMT
I'm kinda hoping season 6 will have an ending episode to this pair where the Silurians finally get though a story without all being killed.
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Post by daemos on Jun 1, 2010 9:25:52 GMT
One thing bugging me now - why did Amy forget Rory after he was consumed by the crack? After all she had no trouble remembering the Church soldiers that suffered the same fate on the Bellerophon. Plot hole or deliberate act? DW The Doctor states quite clearly that since Rory is part of Amy's personal history her previous immunity to history being changed does not apply when he is erased, unlike the clerics whom she had just met. Regards Iain
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Post by themyth on Jun 2, 2010 3:42:14 GMT
One thing bugging me now - why did Amy forget Rory after he was consumed by the crack? After all she had no trouble remembering the Church soldiers that suffered the same fate on the Bellerophon. Plot hole or deliberate act? DW The Doctor states quite clearly that since Rory is part of Amy's personal history her previous immunity to history being changed does not apply when he is erased, unlike the clerics whom she had just met. Regards Iain But the engagement ring box remains in the TARDIS...and I think Arthur Darvill is on the cast list for the finale. Ssshhh.... spoilers!
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Post by curtisj on Jun 8, 2010 16:18:21 GMT
I'm kinda hoping season 6 will have an ending episode to this pair where the Silurians finally get though a story without all being killed. Without all being killed? As far as we know, only two actually died. The Silurians were basically just filler for the crack in the wall mystery. A waste of a decent race. So that whole tense two-parter about peace, war, and the possibility of co-existance between two species - a co-existance which would have succeeded if it wasn't for Restac and the other woman whose name I forget - was crack filler? Insult the episode if you must, but don't call it filler for the crack in the wall just because Steven weaved his series plot into the last tenth of the episode. I'm a bit annoyed with the recurring theme of humanity being morally un-evolved, barbaric or lacking in wisdom. It was okay in The Christmas Invasion, slightly annoying in various 10th Doctor eps, getting wearing in Starship UK and just annoying in Cold Blood. I hadn't noticed this, I'd noticed the other theme, namely that the human race is ever-present and fantastic, which has come up on numerous occasions. Incidentally, the book "Night Of The Humans" gives an interesting take on these two opposing views, so it's worth a read for anyone interested.
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Post by Curufea on Jun 9, 2010 5:14:38 GMT
So that whole tense two-parter about peace, war, and the possibility of co-existance between two species - a co-existance which would have succeeded if it wasn't for Restac and the other woman whose name I forget - was crack filler? Insult the episode if you must, but don't call it filler for the crack in the wall just because Steven weaved his series plot into the last tenth of the episode. Tense? It was formulaic and nowhere near a patch on the old Silurian episodes. It's just a re-imagining of any old race plot (Ice Warriors, Warriors from the Deep etc) with the suspense taken out and replaced with hysterics (or is that histrionics?)
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Post by curtisj on Jun 9, 2010 15:55:00 GMT
Tense? It was formulaic and nowhere near a patch on the old Silurian episodes. It's just a re-imagining of any old race plot (Ice Warriors, Warriors from the Deep etc) with the suspense taken out and replaced with hysterics (or is that histrionics?) Well, I haven't actually seen much of the classic Who, so you may be right. Formulaic or not though, I really don't see how it can be classed as filler for the crack in the wall mystery...
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Post by Curufea on Jun 9, 2010 23:16:49 GMT
Well, the crack was original. The rest was just culled from old eps.
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Post by kaemaril on Jun 9, 2010 23:32:31 GMT
Well, the crack was original. The rest was just culled from old eps. Well, if you're going with 'culled from old eps' (a characterization I strenuously disagree with) then it's only fair to say that the crack is also not original, since it was in previous episodes this season and is a recurring plot element. So, really, that too is 'culled' from old(er) episodes.
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Post by Curufea on Jun 10, 2010 2:05:30 GMT
You're confusing story arc with some odd alternate reality where nothing makes any sense because it is hallucination. In other words "what are you on to believe that is even a remotely logical conclusion to come to?"
The current Silurian story is too similar to the old Silurian story to look original, and therefore has the appearance of plagiarism.
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Post by kaemaril on Jun 10, 2010 9:52:50 GMT
You're confusing story arc with some odd alternate reality where nothing makes any sense because it is hallucination. In other words "what are you on to believe that is even a remotely logical conclusion to come to?" I don't appreciate being insulted. I'm not confusing anything, I'm not 'on' anything. I disagree. Strongly.
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Post by Eryx on Jun 10, 2010 10:30:55 GMT
I'm with Curufea on this. The story is not original as it is basically a rewriting of the original Silurian episode. Very little new. In fact half way through the Silurian city I was expecting to find a dinosaur.
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Post by Curufea on Jun 10, 2010 21:49:35 GMT
Sorry for the insult, I don't take illogical arguements that are just used for the sake of being contrary and confusing as anything other than the provokation they are intended to be.
Please correct me if you do actually believe you were making some kind of valid point and not just provoking a response with inanity.
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Post by kaemaril on Jun 10, 2010 22:37:59 GMT
Sorry for the insult, I don't take illogical arguements that are just used for the sake of being contrary and confusing as anything other than the provokation they are intended to be. Please correct me if you do actually believe you were making some kind of valid point and not just provoking a response with inanity. The rest of your post put the lie to the first four words out of your mouth. No further discussion is warranted. Or desired.
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Post by Rel Fexive on Jun 10, 2010 22:39:25 GMT
You can be a bit of a Negative Nelly though
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Post by kaemaril on Jun 10, 2010 22:49:31 GMT
You can be a bit of a Negative Nelly though This makes outright insults OK, does it?
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Post by Rel Fexive on Jun 10, 2010 22:54:38 GMT
Of course not. But you can be very outspoken in your responses and demands to the point of eliciting frustration. It should not therefore be a surprise if frustration leads to hot words, however non-okay such a response might be.
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Post by kaemaril on Jun 10, 2010 23:06:13 GMT
Of course not. But you can be very outspoken in your responses and demands to the point of eliciting frustration. It should not therefore be a surprise if frustration leads to hot words, however non-okay such a response might be. Outspoken? Sure, can't deny that. Wouldn't, even. Demands? I may have missed the bit where I've made any demands in this thread. I've disagreed with his contention that the entire episode was a ripoff, but I don't believe while doing that that I accused Curufea of using 'illogical arguements' (sic) just for the sake of being 'contrary and confusing' in order to deliberately provoke (aka 'trolling')I also don't believe I've derided his argument as being invalid and suggested he's just 'provoking a response with inanity'. And I'm also fairly sure that, when somebody has suggested I've insulted them, I've not then gone on to offer an insincere apology and then insulted them again practically in the same breath. edit: And I also don't believe I've ever suggested that anyone was 'on' something and watching some kind of (drug fueled?) alternative hallucinatory reality.
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Post by themyth on Jun 10, 2010 23:15:57 GMT
Girls, you're both pretty.
Or do I mean petty?
Whichever.
But I do agree with 2 things:
1 - The Silurian storyline was pretty much the same general structure as the Pertwee episode that introduced them. The story elements are there to see if we but look. And I am not overly impressed by the species re-design either.
2 - The crack is not a "re-culled" story element from the past...it is the plot arc for the 13-episode series. I, for one, am growing fast tired of it and look forward to its ending in the finale. I think it might the most over-used, uninteresting plot arc of the 5 series. It better be more interesting by #13, goshdarnit!
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Post by kaemaril on Jun 10, 2010 23:21:04 GMT
Girls, you're both pretty. Or do I mean petty? Whichever. You're very kind. Is it OK with you if I imply that the above comment is just you trolling? No? Well, never mind. You're very pretty too
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Post by Kindred on Jun 11, 2010 5:14:22 GMT
Everyone take a deep breath. Please agree to disagree and move on.
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