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Post by omega on Apr 3, 2010 19:07:47 GMT
What did you think?
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Post by CharlieBananas on Apr 3, 2010 19:25:01 GMT
I wasn't expecting to like Matt Smith, but I thought the tardis looked great, I also liked the nod to the past...All in all I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.
All the best Mike
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Post by Rel Fexive on Apr 3, 2010 20:12:40 GMT
Very, very good. Matt Smith has pulled off a good introduction. And the new interior looks great - it even sounds different.
Here's another big question - what did everyone think of the new theme? I think it's definitely growing on me the more I listen to it (and you can listen to it too on the website).
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Post by Craig Oxbrow on Apr 3, 2010 20:25:42 GMT
The new theme lacks the triumphal gallop of the Davies-era variations, it isn't "catchy" yet.
Revisiting the "in and out of a life" thing from Girl In The Fireplace is a bit, well, revisit-y.
Otherwise, grand old time, more please.
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Post by renegadetimelord on Apr 3, 2010 20:31:14 GMT
Escaped prisoner who can take on human form to hide from the Police, and has a showdown inside a hospital... Hmm, isn't that the Plasmavore and the Judoon?
Otherwise, very good.
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Post by Corone on Apr 3, 2010 21:11:41 GMT
I'm not sure about the new theme either, but I'll give it a chance.
Top episode though and Amy even more gorgeous than expected!
Anyone else notice the laptop was by 'Myth' I wonder if this is the new 'Bad Wolf' for the season?
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Post by Rel Fexive on Apr 3, 2010 22:50:59 GMT
I thought the same thing, yes.
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Post by kaemaril on Apr 3, 2010 23:18:22 GMT
Mmm. Yes. Yes, I think I quite enjoyed that. Not quite sure about the new arrangement of the theme, but I'm sure it'll grow on me. Quite liked 'Beans are evil', also. And it was nice to see Olivia Colman as a Who villain
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Post by Little Blue Box on Apr 4, 2010 0:14:21 GMT
I wasn't too sure at first. The title sequence was brilliant but I much prefered the previous version of the theme tune. But, yes, the titles are great! I very much love the way in which the logo turns into the TARDIS. That was excellent.
The little girl playing Amy was a bit stiff. I had a little bit of trouble understanding her dialogue. But, I thought the sequence in which the newly generated Doctor tries lots of different foods was very funny.
And what of the new Doctor? Again, I wasn't sure at first but he grew on me. The scene where the aliens produced the hologram of all of the previous Doctors only for the Eleventh Doctor to step through in his new outfit was very, very well done. I think Matt Smith has really good comic timing - in fact, I think he actually manages that side of the role better than Tennant (blasphemy?). By the end, where he announced himself as 'a madman with a box', my fears had been put to rest. He's going to be great to watch.
Not sure on Amy but I'm not going to judge her yet. I already prefer her to Martha, so that's something.
The story was great. In comparison as an origin story, Rose comes off quite poorly in my eyes. I think Moffat did a superb job in introducing the new Doctor and companion, as well as creating a story that was interesting - with a climax that didn't rely on a stupid deux ex machina. It's the one thing I always loathed about the stories written by Davies. It's nice to have a payoff that felt justified rather than some techno-babble and a button being pushed.
8.5 out of 10.
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Post by redwulf25ci on Apr 4, 2010 0:55:38 GMT
Anyone else notice the laptop was by 'Myth' I wonder if this is the new 'Bad Wolf' for the season? Edit: Now that I've seen a screen cap someone took I'm not sure it's Algiz anymore. It's more rounded than I recall. Nope, that's the Greek letter Psi. Deleting my previous spec. Being the letter immediate prior to Omega that has its own implications.
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Post by omega on Apr 4, 2010 4:59:20 GMT
Did anyone else notice the 'crack' on the TARDIS scanner looked like the crack in the wall?
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Post by themyth on Apr 4, 2010 6:49:41 GMT
Did anyone else notice the 'crack' on the TARDIS scanner looked like the crack in the wall? "The Crack" and its relationship to the Pandoracle (?) seems to be the overarching theme of the season. I liked the episode a lot! Yeah, it plays with themes that have been done before, but, well, the show is about 47 yeas old. Stuff is gonna get redone again and again. The title sequence is the worst ever. I hated the music and I hated the new thunder-and-lightning effects. Just blah! So, which dude is Amy engaged to? I saw the nurse shown in a future episode, but I didn't spot pornboy.
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Post by Curufea on Apr 4, 2010 7:26:51 GMT
Great, not too crash hot on the theme though - my wife thinks it's a bit blah and turn-offable. I thought it wasn't epic.
Reminded me of the "Rose" episode. Doctor turns up, spouts plot he knows that baffles everyone, comes close to winning - but in the end the companions saves the day - in a way that didn't have any lead up to it (ie not enough foreshadowing).
Amy may well be my favourite of the new series companions because of her attitude.
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Post by Escher on Apr 4, 2010 8:12:13 GMT
I gave it a 'wonderful' vote but really, the new theme is cr*p and wtf has happened to the Vortex?
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Post by da professor on Apr 4, 2010 10:47:29 GMT
Why, when everyone who voted clearly enjoyed the episode, do so many posts include complaints, for example: The little girl playing Amy was a bit stiff. I had a little bit of trouble understanding her dialogue. She was playing a girl who had only relatively recently lost her parents, had it been a long time ago a girl that young wouldn't have remembered, and people, even kids, suffering from the depression which grief can cause do come across as stiff. As for not understanding her dialogue, it's a Scots accent, perfectly clear if you just listen properly. And all those complaints about the title sequence...wtf? As long as you know it means Doctor Who is starting why is it so important exactly what it comprises.
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Post by Escher on Apr 4, 2010 11:37:53 GMT
And all those complaints about the title sequence...wtf? As long as you know it means Doctor Who is starting why is it so important exactly what it comprises. I genuinely found it poor. The theme sounds like it was programmed in a couple of hours. I'm surprised because it's Murry Gold; and, since when was the Time Vortex a cloudy tunnel with lightning bolts shooting out? Everyone here had a confused expression. Gladly, the show made up for that initial wtf moment. A great start and I think it may be something quite special.
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Post by da professor on Apr 4, 2010 11:57:50 GMT
since when was the Time Vortex a cloudy tunnel with lightning bolts shooting out? Since the vortex might well have been affected by the cracks in the universe of which the one in little Amelia's room is only the first we've seen, who knows what it looks like now. Besides, since it only exists, as far as we know, in the Doctor Who universe, we only have interpretations of what it looks like, so this one is also valid. And I still don't understand why anyone cares whether the title sequence was good, especially when the show itself was the best thing on tv this year.
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Post by joe2001 on Apr 4, 2010 14:20:39 GMT
I enjoyed it. Not an original story but still great fun. Matt Smith has nailed it as far as I'm concerned and Karen Gillan...those legs...woo hoo!
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Post by JohnK on Apr 4, 2010 14:24:12 GMT
Hullo, Omega, Seeing that it doesn't air here in Canada until the 17th of the month, I can't really comment on it. (And am trying to avoid spoilers, of course.) I did , however, see the new opening sequence up on YouTube, and have to say I'm less than thrilled with it.
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Post by CharlieBananas on Apr 4, 2010 14:42:13 GMT
since when was the Time Vortex a cloudy tunnel with lightning bolts shooting out? Since the vortex might well have been affected by the cracks in the universe of which the one in little Amelia's room is only the first we've seen, who knows what it looks like now. Besides, since it only exists, as far as we know, in the Doctor Who universe, we only have interpretations of what it looks like, so this one is also valid. And I still don't understand why anyone cares whether the title sequence was good, especially when the show itself was the best thing on tv this year. I was also thinking that the new Vortex could be related to the series story arch, the old one was kind of tranquil and ordered, whilst this one seems chaotic and broken, I also wonder if it is related to The End of Time episode, as reference was made in the second part to cracks in time and space across the universe.
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Post by Rel Fexive on Apr 4, 2010 15:13:19 GMT
"I love humans. Always seeing patterns in things that aren't there." - The Doctor
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Post by ugavine on Apr 5, 2010 19:41:11 GMT
Absolutely Brilliant! I loved every second of it, and I've watched it twice! Matt Smith is suitably eccentric as The Doctor and Karen is just wonderful, and a little cheeky as Amy. When The Doctor is getting changed and Rory asks, "Aren't you going to look away?" and she replies, "No," she has just the naughtiest smile. While the monster was nothing special that was not the point of this episode, this was all about the new Doctor, Amy and the plot seed for the series. Oh, and the new TARDIS of course, it's looks fantastic and I hope we get to see more of it. Steven Moffat does seem to be dipping solidly into Doctor Who's past already. The TARDIS exterior looks more like the William Hartnell one, and the interior has nods to Hartnell too with the circular thingy (technical term) above the console. And already we get a reminder of all the other Doctors that have gone before, I loved that. And calling back the aliens just to get them to run away was hilairious. Oh I'm so much going to love this series. I heard talk of some guy called David Tennant, who's he? Because Matt Smith is The Doctor.
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Post by rev503 on Apr 5, 2010 22:39:08 GMT
I liked the new opening sequence and musical arrangement. I thought Matt Smith did pretty good and Amy will make things interesting. I had a wtf moment when they showed the new TARDIS Interior...I didn't think they could make it look worse than the previous one but they managed. Story was good for whats essentially an Intro. I was amazed Amy actually thought he could get her back for tomorrow considering he managed to be fourteen years late (and two years late in his "quick running in trip") - I was kinda let down she didn't hit him (again) for that comment (or there wasn't an explanation from the Doctor - at least "Tardis is repaired, we shouldn't have any trouble hitting the right time now")
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Post by whichdoctor on Apr 6, 2010 3:55:24 GMT
So that new TARDIS desktop theme? Is that the "leopard skin"? Don't mind the new vortex...I can buy that it's part of the story arc. Cracks in the Universe? Interesting. Matt Smith: nailed the Doctor on his first go. I think he's meant to be a bit more happy-go-lucky Doctor this time out, which is fine by me. But I'm wondering if they might do some darker bits further on. Karan Gillan...brave, scottish, legs, kiss-o-gram...uh, I'll be in my bunk. Overall I think the series is in good hands. I can't wait to see more. The theme though...yeah...needs work there.
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Post by Eternally Lost Zeppo on Apr 6, 2010 15:14:34 GMT
I really enjoyed the first episode, and even watched it again on the Sunday. I like the new TARDIS interior, the new theme tune, and the story arc for this season seems like it should be interesting as well.
Smith did pretty well, though there were a few points where I thought he might have missed his cues by a few seconds. So far so good though.
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Post by renegadetimelord on Apr 6, 2010 17:39:38 GMT
The theme though...yeah...needs work there. If you can drop in to the BBC Who site and listen to the theme in isolation, it grows on you - because you can appreciate the complexity. I might be hearing things, but the themes seems to be a rendition of the several versions melded into a coherent whole - elements of majesty from the 8th Doctor theme, orchestra from the 9th/10th, synth from the earlier incarnations... Layer upon layer.
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Post by renegadetimelord on Apr 6, 2010 17:43:21 GMT
I was amazed Amy actually thought he could get her back for tomorrow considering he managed to be fourteen years late (and two years late in his "quick running in trip") - I was kinda let down she didn't hit him (again) for that comment (or there wasn't an explanation from the Doctor - at least "Tardis is repaired, we shouldn't have any trouble hitting the right time now") Did you consider that Amy has been hoping the Doctor would utterly fail to get her back for a wedding that, quite possibly, she only ended up in because she was bidding her time. Amy wants to be free of the real world, escaping into fantasies (e.g. the life of a kiss-o-gram)... the TARDIS must be a better place than marriage!
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Post by Null and Void on Apr 6, 2010 21:11:20 GMT
I quite liked it, and it is probably the most solid and accessible regeneration story in a long time. The aliens are there as an afterthought, in my opinion... they are just there to show off what the Doctor can do.
Matt Smith was perfectly solid as the Doctor. While he has the comic timing down, I think the most refreshing things about him so far are a lack of angst, a slightly more subdued personality, and a less evident ego (Oh, its still there... but he seemed actually embarassed by his egotistical outburst.)
Karen Smith is gorgeous, and I loved the character's personality. Its like they took all the best parts of Rose, Martha, and Donna and mixed them together, and in a moment of sheer alchemical magic produced something completely original.
The TARDIS... thank GOD. I never warmed to the TARDIS interior of the 9th and 10th Doctors... it always seemed to cold, too organic, too dirty, and too dark, and too cavelike... This one is warm and inviting. Its friendly looking. Its *slightly* reminiscent of the McGann console, but not really. And the central column is just beautiful. And... was that large copper disk by the doorway possibly a viewscreen?? It would be nice to see that again. Most of all, this is the only TARDIS since McGann's that actually gave a sense of having a huge interior space.... very nicely realized.
Opening credits and theme music were... dreadful. Seriously bad. It just doesn't seem to fit the show IN THE FIRST EPISODE. Maybe it will make more sense later on, but right now, its the proverbial sore thumb.
The scene on the roof at the end was rather indulgent I thought. It really didn't add anything to the story, and seemed to only be there to introduce the 11th Doctor in a stylish way. I liked it mind you... but it seemed tacked on.
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Post by rev503 on Apr 6, 2010 22:28:51 GMT
I was amazed Amy actually thought he could get her back for tomorrow considering he managed to be fourteen years late (and two years late in his "quick running in trip") - I was kinda let down she didn't hit him (again) for that comment (or there wasn't an explanation from the Doctor - at least "Tardis is repaired, we shouldn't have any trouble hitting the right time now") Did you consider that Amy has been hoping the Doctor would utterly fail to get her back for a wedding that, quite possibly, she only ended up in because she was bidding her time. Amy wants to be free of the real world, escaping into fantasies (e.g. the life of a kiss-o-gram)... the TARDIS must be a better place than marriage! Could be...but in that case why bring it up that she had to be back. Its obviously going to be a plot point somewhere along the way.
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Post by Curufea on Apr 6, 2010 22:50:52 GMT
Karen Smith is gorgeous, and I loved the character's personality. Its like they took all the best parts of Rose, Martha, and Donna and mixed them together, and in a moment of sheer alchemical magic produced something completely original. That's a bit Freudian - isn't it Karen Gillan?
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