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Post by Siskoid on Feb 27, 2010 18:36:40 GMT
I'd like to adapt some of the stats created for Jason Vey's unofficial sourcebook o DWAITAS for my game. Does such a thing already exist?
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Post by traveller61 on Feb 28, 2010 22:22:27 GMT
I'd like to adapt some of the stats created for Jason Vey's unofficial sourcebook o DWAITAS for my game. Does such a thing already exist? Not that I've heard of but it should not be too difficult. Just remember that in Unisystem human average is 2 compared to 3 in DWAITAS (but 6 is the human maximum in both systems). As for converting the stats:- Unisystem DWAITAS Strength = Strength Dexterity = Coordination Willpower = Resolve Perception = Awareness Constitution = Strength Charisma Quality = Presence (For every +1 of Charisma add 1 to a base Presence of 3). Traits are just a case of matching the most appropriate in one DWAITAS with the closest Quality / Drawback in Unisystem. Of course if you need a copy of the Unisystem rules the Witchcraft game can be downloaded free from the Eden website. Being a big fan of Unisystem if I can help with any specific problems please let me know. DW
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Post by Siskoid on Mar 1, 2010 2:11:54 GMT
That's already helpful, thanks!
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Post by JohnK on Mar 2, 2010 16:09:28 GMT
Hullo, traveller61, I'd like to adapt some of the stats created for Jason Vey's unofficial sourcebook o DWAITAS for my game. Does such a thing already exist? Not that I've heard of but it should not be too difficult. Just remember that in Unisystem human average is 2 compared to 3 in DWAITAS (but 6 is the human maximum in both systems). Something else to bear in mind is that in Unisystem, the normal Difficulty for a task is 9, but in DW: AiTas, the normal Difficulty is a 12. That makes for a bit of a difference in the numbers, too. As for converting the stats:- Unisystem DWAITAS Strength = Strength Dexterity = Coordination Willpower = Resolve Perception = Awareness Constitution = Strength Charisma Quality = Presence (For every +1 of Charisma add 1 to a base Presence of 3). You forgot here that Ingenuity is roughly equivalent to Intelligence. For the Presence vs. Charisma element, do you mean that if a character in Unisystem has Charisma 4, the equivalent value in DW: AiTaS is 7? I'm not sure that works, unless you're talking about the Quality, and even then... Traits are just a case of matching the most appropriate in one DWAITAS with the closest Quality / Drawback in Unisystem. I would agree with this, although I think there are quite a few Qualities and Drawbacks in Unisystem that don't have equivalents in DW: AiTaS yet.
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Post by traveller61 on Mar 6, 2010 19:51:57 GMT
John K, Missing Intelligence = Ingenuity: mea culpa! That's what I get for posting in a half asleep state.
Presence / Charisma - that was what I was going for; I took DWAITAS Presence 3 (average) = Unisystem Charisma 0 (average person without the Charisma quality). So the Doctor with Presence 4 would come out with Charisma +1 in Unisystem, and vice versa.
Task numbers - no problem there as both work out about the same: average stat + average skill + average dice roll = success (just). DWAITAS 3+3+7 = 13, difficulty = 12, so success "Yes, but.." Unisystem 2+2+5 = 9, difficulty = 9, so success "adequate" Not perfect but close enough ;D
DW
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Post by Siskoid on Mar 7, 2010 14:37:21 GMT
I've done a couple of conversions for my sessions this week, and it seemed fine if I did: UNI/DWAITAS 1=1 2=2 3=3-4 4=5-6 5=7-8
And so on. But in truth, DWAITAS is so easy to work with, I could practically do away with converting and just write up the stats myself as needed, from scratch.
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Post by JohnK on Mar 8, 2010 15:41:35 GMT
Hullo, traveller61, John K, Missing Intelligence = Ingenuity: mea culpa! That's what I get for posting in a half asleep state. Yeah, that would do it! It's not a big deal, you know. Presence / Charisma - that was what I was going for; I took DWAITAS Presence 3 (average) = Unisystem Charisma 0 (average person without the Charisma quality). So the Doctor with Presence 4 would come out with Charisma +1 in Unisystem, and vice versa. Ah, okay, this makes sense to me now. I guess I just didn't see this at the time. Oh, and one other thing... You listed both Strength and Constitution in Unisystem as being Strength in DW: AiTaS. I would modify that so the average of the two, rounding per usual, would give you DW: AiTaS Strength. Btw, I would also argue that since the average Attribute in Unisystem is 2, whereas it's 3 in DW: AiTaS, one should increase the value of any Attribute by +1 in the DW: AiTaS system when converting from the Unisystem. Thus, a character with a 4 Dexterity in Uni should have a 5 Coordination in DW: AiTaS. Task numbers - no problem there as both work out about the same: average stat + average skill + average dice roll = success (just). DWAITAS 3+3+7 = 13, difficulty = 12, so success "Yes, but.." Unisystem 2+2+5 = 9, difficulty = 9, so success "adequate" Not perfect but close enough ;D As you say, close enough...and that works for me.
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Post by JohnK on Mar 8, 2010 15:45:46 GMT
Hullo, Siskoid, I've done a couple of conversions for my sessions this week, and it seemed fine if I did: UNI/DWAITAS 1=1 2=2 3=3-4 4=5-6 5=7-8 Out of curiosity, which numbers do these correspond to? And so on. But in truth, DWAITAS is so easy to work with, I could practically do away with converting and just write up the stats myself as needed, from scratch. Agreed. When I was starting my DW: AiTaS campaign on the Sunday gaming group, where it's a Time Lord and his companions, I used The Artist from my campaign back in the early 2000s that was done up with the Unisystem, and the conversion (even without all the stuff right now) was pretty easy to do. The real trick is the Qualities and Drawbacks, of course.
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