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Post by Kit on Feb 3, 2010 20:47:15 GMT
The site should be up soon.
Today, Dom said this:
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Post by Jason_WPGL on Feb 5, 2010 22:06:20 GMT
That's good to hear.
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Post by ugavine on Feb 6, 2010 20:32:47 GMT
An official Doctor Who RPG page will be nice to see, simply from an advertising perspective. Fans need to know the game is out there.
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Post by JohnK on Feb 7, 2010 15:23:51 GMT
Hullo, Ugavine, An official Doctor Who RPG page will be nice to see, simply from an advertising perspective. Fans need to know the game is out there. Well, most of the Doctor Who fan groups and the like who have an internet presence already know about the game, through the efforts of the folks at C7 and around here, so the word is out there. That said, Cubicle 7 really should have a DW: AiTaS devoted page and all, since it would allow the company to market the game more properly.
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Post by ugavine on Feb 7, 2010 21:51:24 GMT
Exactly. Take Star Wars RPG which Wizards of the Coast have just cancelled. One of the biggest gripes from the fans was their lack of promoting the game. The website got an update maybe once every 2-3 months when a new book came out, and then AFTER it's release. No wonder the game died, WOTC just didn't promote it.
As for DW:AiTaS, well I actually wrote to Panini Comics about the lack of mentioning it in Doctor Who magazine - I think there was a bit on a side-bar last month. I have contacted drwho-online website too because they are not listing it on their products page either - so far no reply and it's still not listed!
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Post by Curufea on Feb 8, 2010 1:15:24 GMT
I don't understand the logic of it, myself :-
If you don't have a website, then you can't be found easily with search engines. If you don't want to be found by search engines - why do you want to be a publisher?
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Post by hogscape on Feb 11, 2010 7:33:39 GMT
These days, a web presence is an absolute must. At the moment, this forum seems to be doing all the hard yards.
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Post by Kit on Feb 22, 2010 17:22:13 GMT
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Post by The Professor on Feb 22, 2010 19:56:47 GMT
Looks snazzy enough. A little slow on the load for this machine, but it could be just this heap I'm using.
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Post by kaemaril on Feb 22, 2010 22:18:36 GMT
On my macbook the graphics looks awful, but I think that's something to do with T-Mobile's mobile broadband image compression. Incidentally, C7 might want to create an index.html file, 'cos at the moment I can see the directory listing if I go to www.cubicle-7.com/doctorwho/
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Post by Curufea on Feb 22, 2010 22:44:34 GMT
No-one with webwriting skills on the team I take it? General accessability issues-
A webpage should never have text inside images. Text should always be high contrast to a simple background. Images should always have alt text and preferrably a title as well. Links should always tell you where they go and never be ambiguous (no "click here"). If a link is going to something other than a webpage, it should say so in the link, as well as the size of the file.
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Post by kaemaril on Feb 22, 2010 23:16:33 GMT
No-one with webwriting skills on the team I take it? General accessability issues- A webpage should never have text inside images. Text should always be high contrast to a simple background. Images should always have alt text and preferrably a title as well. Links should always tell you where they go and never be ambiguous (no "click here"). If a link is going to something other than a webpage, it should say so in the link, as well as the size of the file. To say nothing of the awful table-based HTML. Hundred+ errors on the w3c validator
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Post by skagra on Feb 23, 2010 0:22:56 GMT
Well no wonder these RPG companies don't put much bother into websites - they get torn to shreds for their efforts.
C7 - I think the page looks nice and is informative. I'm delighted to see the wheels in motion. Keep up the good work!
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Post by Curufea on Feb 23, 2010 0:59:12 GMT
Just trying to be helpful by telling folk what I learnt in my writing for the web courses.
I'm also happy to design the page for them for free according to accessability.
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Post by kaemaril on Feb 23, 2010 2:31:56 GMT
Well no wonder these RPG companies don't put much bother into websites - they get torn to shreds for their efforts. C7 - I think the page looks nice and is informative. I'm delighted to see the wheels in motion. Keep up the good work! Oh, please. Torn to shreds? Hardly. If I wanted to 'tear to shreds' the site I'd give the full bulleted list of what's wrong. As it stands, I'll show you a picture instead. You may think the page looks nice and informative, but this is what some people will see... The image below is what the page linked above looks like with the images turned off: I know what you're thinking - who on Earth would turn images off? Well, actually, a few people do. And, of course, there's those who have no choice but to browse without benefit of images - the blind. You know it's a legal requirement for websites (businesses, at least) to be 'accessible'? Well, if C7 would like to consider the accessibility ramifications of the image above, showing what the site looks like with images off (and, therefore, how a text reader might see it...)? edited to add: Hopefully those pages will be expanded upon. At the moment it looks like they're just sliced Photoshop images with no actual text content. With any luck more actual text will be forthcoming. Fingers crossed.
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Post by Dom on Feb 23, 2010 10:02:19 GMT
We'll be building on this - it is basic at the moment, and yes, it's just a sliced photoshop image, I am not a very webby person. Our web presence generally is high on the list for further attention.
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Post by JohnK on Feb 23, 2010 15:33:16 GMT
Hullo, Kit, Yep, saw the page. And an excellent beginning it seems to be, too.
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Post by JohnK on Feb 23, 2010 16:15:35 GMT
Hullo, Dom, We'll be building on this - it is basic at the moment, and yes, it's just a sliced photoshop image, I am not a very webby person. Our web presence generally is high on the list for further attention. I'm glad to hear this. I assume that a web savvy type will be handling the development of the DW: AiTaS set of pages in future?
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Post by Curufea on Feb 23, 2010 19:56:23 GMT
It does, however, give us a good indication of the layout and style you want for the website. I do think it will be good to have it visually similar to the printed book, as close as you can get with website limitations (and still make it useable). I didn't mean to sound harsh, I design and maintain websites for the National Library of Australia as part of my job (not all the websites, only some), so have had accessability drummed into me.
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Post by imajica on Mar 10, 2010 15:53:57 GMT
Let's hope they get someone web-savvy on there soon enough. The general style and layou is good but the whole reliance on images is so wrong on so many levels.
And with today's browsers, even wonderful fonts are an option (www.fontsquirrel.com)
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Post by gmjake on May 1, 2010 21:23:46 GMT
give em a break, i'm sure they'll get it fixed sometime.
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Post by Eryx on May 1, 2010 22:08:21 GMT
These days, a web presence is an absolute must. At the moment, this forum seems to be doing all the hard yards. Except that this site isn't easy to find either. When I'm at work and can't remember the web address, Google never finds it either.
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Post by Craig Oxbrow on May 1, 2010 22:20:24 GMT
Except that this site isn't easy to find either. When I'm at work and can't remember the web address, Google never finds it either. Google "dwaitas" and it's the first hit, but that wouldn't be helpful for someone looking for a Doctor Who RPG site that didn't know to use the initials of the game and subtitle.
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Post by Curufea on May 3, 2010 4:23:17 GMT
Let's hope they get someone web-savvy on there soon enough. The general style and layou is good but the whole reliance on images is so wrong on so many levels. And with today's browsers, even wonderful fonts are an option (www.fontsquirrel.com) I didn't think it was possible to embed fonts? Even @font-face has problems.
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Post by imajica on May 3, 2010 13:52:00 GMT
It's not always possible - that's why the fontkits there usually have 3 different ways of doing the same job within the style definition - I think it's one for Opera & Chrome, one for Firefox, one for IE. And you usually need the latest and greatest version for them to work. So no IE6, if I'm right. And they still don't work in Lynx ;-)
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Post by Curufea on May 10, 2010 6:37:05 GMT
The lack of embedding fonts though is to make websites more accessible to everyone.
So if hell-bent on custom fonts, you may as well use images.
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Post by kaemaril on May 10, 2010 11:50:48 GMT
The lack of embedding fonts though is to make websites more accessible to everyone. So if hell-bent on custom fonts, you may as well use images. Which defeats the purpose of making the site accessible to everyone, as those who don't see the image don't see the text*. Not so bad for custom headings and small chunks of text, but I'd really not want to see five paragraphs of text in ALT tags The site's still tables supporting chopped up PSD with no ALT tags, I see. Disappointing. I expect they're busy with the supplements though. At least ... I hope so * Admittedly there are clever CSS ways around this, but not every site bothers.
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Post by kaemaril on May 10, 2010 11:52:02 GMT
These days, a web presence is an absolute must. At the moment, this forum seems to be doing all the hard yards. Except that this site isn't easy to find either. When I'm at work and can't remember the web address, Google never finds it either. Try doctor who rpg forum - it's the fourth link I see with that search phrase.
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Post by knasser on May 26, 2010 19:59:39 GMT
The lack of embedding fonts though is to make websites more accessible to everyone. So if hell-bent on custom fonts, you may as well use images. Which defeats the purpose of making the site accessible to everyone, as those who don't see the image don't see the text*. Not so bad for custom headings and small chunks of text, but I'd really not want to see five paragraphs of text in ALT tags The site's still tables supporting chopped up PSD with no ALT tags, I see. Disappointing. I expect they're busy with the supplements though. At least ... I hope so * Admittedly there are clever CSS ways around this, but not every site bothers. I don't know much about web design, but I know what looks bad. That site is awful. I hope when they start putting out products more regularly and release the Matt Smith version of the game, they sort their website out - for the sake of the game's success.
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