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Post by senko on Oct 14, 2019 23:57:22 GMT
This has been niggling in the back of my head and while I'm sure I've seen an answer once I can't find it. I'm wondering if you have a full official crew of 6 timelords in a TARDIS do they have official roles or just general swapping? That is is it more like humans with specific duties e.g. ships crew = Captain, Doctor, Engineer, Pilot or a science expedition = Paleantologist, Geologist, Sociologist, Linguist or are they all so knowledgeable (given the Doctor's actions as someone who had to repeat a year) that its just 6 crew members and today one might work the navigation controls today, study the sociological development of a species next week then handle the scanners when they move to the next world before studying it's geological crystal formations.
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 15, 2019 13:43:08 GMT
Not in any remotely official or canon source I'm aware of. However don't let that stop you....
Phaeton99 over at Deviantart suggests for a TARDIS from Ye Olde Days before Gallifrey cut itself off from the universe:
Such an ornate, not to grandiose, TARDIS might be interesting for gaming. Not really suited at all to the use of a single Time Lord and her non-Gallifreyan companions...
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Post by Stormcrow on Oct 16, 2019 14:00:04 GMT
I completely ignore the "six pilots" line, because it's utter nonsense.
Back when Time Lords actually went places in their capsules, I would imagine they would only bring essential personnel for a given mission. Time Lord missions were stealth missions, trying not to interfere anywhere they went.
Assuming not every Time Lord is an expert capsule pilot, one pilot would be assigned, and unless this person had other expertise, the pilot would remain in the capsule during the mission. Then one or more members of the mission proper, likely scientists with some sort of anthropological background, would leave the capsule and perform the mission, then return. If the mission can be accomplished without leaving the capsule, so much the better.
In those cases when the Time Lords were at war, the capsule would be filled with soldiers, who would disembark at the target place and time, engage in battle, then return to the capsule.
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Post by senko on Oct 17, 2019 8:46:17 GMT
Hmm interesting if conflicting viewpoints, both offer good roleplaying options though and both seem to support that they do have official roles. Either a full sicentific ranking system or a pilot, crew division. I can work with this thanks.
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Post by Stormcrow on Oct 17, 2019 17:39:23 GMT
I think it's just as likely that there are plenty of Time Lords who have both the piloting skill and the scientific skills needed for a given mission. Or had, since Time Lords don't do a lot of traveling anymore. There would only be a pilot if the scientific crew didn't have the skill. It's not like they're looking for fancy flying or anything. Just sneak in, park the capsule, and sneak out again when you're done.
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Post by Catsmate on Oct 23, 2019 18:27:34 GMT
In addition to those previously listed I'd go with the traditional medieval offices, things like; Chamberlain, Constable, Reeve et cetera.
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Post by Stormcrow on Oct 24, 2019 15:44:44 GMT
Chamberlain, Constable, Reeve et cetera. For a TARDIS? Seems like overkill. Perhaps you guys have a different idea of the design purpose of a TARDIS than I do. I've always understood them to be for exploring the universe and going on missions to adjust history. Once the Time Lords stopped engaging with the universe, the TARDISes just languished in their bays or were decommissioned. I don't think they were meant to be portable government, like a king traveling with his retinue to a vassal's castle. The Doctor's TARDIS has things like a swimming pool and a cloister room because the Doctor is eclectic and scatterbrained and doesn't clean up his ship's internal configuration, not because Time Lords liked to hang out in TARDIS hotels.
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Post by senko on Oct 24, 2019 19:19:40 GMT
I always viewed the TARDIS as a way for timelords to observe the multiverse right up till the end when they focused on the war. We know they're still seeing use by non-rogue timelords in the classic era anyway. Hence why I was wondering if they'd be structured more like a scientific expedition as we would or if as as you indicated you agree its just 6 scientists studying something and they swap duties based on skills/need.
Seems to me if a timelord is setting the TARDIS up as a king travelling they'd have a good mindset to wind up going rogue like the master or the rani.
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Post by Stormcrow on Oct 24, 2019 20:31:17 GMT
I always viewed the TARDIS as a way for timelords to observe the multiverse right up till the end when they focused on the war. We know they're still seeing use by non-rogue timelords in the classic era anyway. I don't think we do. At least, not in the TV show. Whenever we see non-renegade Time Lords they use some non-TARDIS technology to shuffle people, including themselves, around in time and space. The only thing we ever see Time Lords do with TARDISes is store them. Not six! There's no magic number six. It's just however many are needed or want to go (and Time Lords famously don't want to go). And that would be a scientific expedition. You don't need to bring along an entire university to go on a scientific expedition. Especially in Doctor Who, where scientific breakthroughs are nearly always accomplished by individuals, not teams, or any team is simply doing whatever the individual tells them to do. Frankly, I think they would choose as few Time Lords for an expedition as possible, partly to minimize their impact on time, and partly because the Time Lords find travel about the universe so distasteful. "Ladies and gentlemen, the Time Lord Council has decided that, due to the critical nature of the historical period in which the detected time anomaly exists, an expedition must be sent to assess the nature of the anomaly and whether any actions need to be taken to repair temporal damage. As chief scientist on this project, I will lead the expedition. Torvid is our principle temporal physicist and will be joining us. He also has a Class 3 certification in piloting time travel capsules. Jolaya has made a study of the affected time and planet and will advise us on the local customs, should deep penetration of the culture become necessary. We three will be the entire expedition. Quartinosee, please requisition and prepare a capsule for departure in one day."
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Post by senko on Oct 25, 2019 4:35:04 GMT
I could have sworn we saw Romana at least using a TARDIS in the classic series at some point after her first time with the Doctor?
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Post by Stormcrow on Oct 25, 2019 12:54:34 GMT
In the TV series, we never see Romana again after she leaves the Doctor in E-Space. She never has a TARDIS of her own.
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Post by senko on Oct 27, 2019 7:58:49 GMT
Huh I thought we saw at least one non-renegade in a TARDIS guess I was mistaken.
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