LOF Campaign

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Hi all, in case any of you aren't aware (in which you are indeed very lucky not have been subjected to my rambling) for some time I have planning a massive Land of Fiction adventure to cap off/end my current series of my campaign.

The players are:

Mortimus, the Meddling Monk (Originally played by Burgess Meredith now having regenerated into Reece Shearsmith) Having survived and witnessed the horrors of the Time War, he is trying to prove he can do some good in the universe. Trouble is, he is not very good at being the hero.

Verna: A devoutly religious Hath Priest who wants to find her God.

'Jack': An android from an abandoned futuristic planetary version of Madame Tussaud, specially designed and programmed to believe he is notorious serial killer Jack the Ripper. Thankfully, the centuries of isolation have caused him to evolve beyond his programming. Thankfully....

Janus: A Catkind Scientist who suffers from delusions of grandeur.

Stewart Hughes: A university student from early 2000s Ireland whose younger brother was abducted by Faeries.

The adventure hook will be that across the world children are vanishing. There is seemingly no connection between the disappearances as all the missing children are from all walks of life, all religions and ethnicities. The only connection that can be found is that all the disappearances occurred in broad daylight and in places of learning such as libraries and schools. The adventure will begin with Stewart will recieve a phone call from his Mum (his phone having enhanced with universal roaming) asking him and his friends to come back to Ireland as in her local town an entire school class seemingly vanished after visiting the local library, with Stewart's Mum begging Mortimus and the others to help find the missing children as she knows what it is like to lose a child. If all goes to plan, Mortimus should accept (with his player having remarked that Mortimus is now somewhat fond of Stewart's Mum after their last festive adventure involving Stewart's family and the Krampus. The extent of this fondness for her is yet to be revealed ) Through thorough investigation at the place of the children's disappearance they should discover an energy trace which Mortimus will then be able to trace back to the Land of Fiction using his TARDIS. Once there, they will try and find the missing children and discover what exactly is going on.

Antagonists
Derek Diggory (A once popular presenter on Jackanory in the 1970s-1990, now under the control of the Master Brain. He is kidnapping the children to provide him with a captive audience)
Professor Moriarty (Having become self-aware of his status as a fictional character he has reprogrammed the Master Brain and is manipulating Diggory to break down the walls of reality and free the denizens of the Land of Fiction from the shackles of narrative)
Various fictional monsters and villains

Now here is what worries me. To truly capture that sense of uneasiness and make every encounter a surprise I thought of the following idea which I have seen people use wonderfully when rolling for the Resourceful Pocket Traits, I.e. Every dice roll will create a encounter with a different fictional character with a some being villains and others being possible allies. For example...

1-1 The Gruffalo
1-2 The Gloamglozer
1-3 The Highwayrat
1-4 Doctor Jekyll/Mr. Hyde
1-5 Winnie the Pooh
1-6 Biggles

Does anyone see any problems that might occur using this method? Or just any general feedback on the adventure idea? Perhaps any constructive criticism if it looks too much like I'm railroading the players? I know it will require making a huge amount of stats for each fictional character but I don't mind. As long as they enjoy themselves it will be worth the work. 😊

[Catsmate]

Not feedback per se but I'd take a look at the US TV series The Librarians, specifically series 2. It had a version of Moriarty as one of the villains and involved conflict with a number of 'Fictionals' so might be a useful pool of ideas.

Oh and I posted stats for Biggles (and sidekicks) here. Polar Bear stat'd a large number of Pulp characters which can be found in his Dropbox here.

Hope this helps.

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Jan 8, 2018 15:21:25 GMT Catsmate said:

Not feedback per se but I'd take a look at the US TV series The Librarians, specifically series 2. It had a version of Moriarty as one of the villains and involved conflict with a number of 'Fictionals' so might be a useful pool of ideas.

Oh and I posted stats for Biggles (and sidekicks) here. Polar Bear stat'd a large number of Pulp characters which can be found in his Dropbox here.

Hope this helps.

Nice, thank you! I shall definitely give it a look. Oh and thanks for the help when it comes to stats. Should cut things down significantly in terms of time. 

[Catsmate]

No problem at all.

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Jan 8, 2018 15:25:54 GMT @toymaker66 said:

Jan 8, 2018 15:21:25 GMT Catsmate said:

Not feedback per se but I'd take a look at the US TV series The Librarians, specifically series 2. It had a version of Moriarty as one of the villains and involved conflict with a number of 'Fictionals' so might be a useful pool of ideas.

Oh and I posted stats for Biggles (and sidekicks) here. Polar Bear stat'd a large number of Pulp characters which can be found in his Dropbox here.

Hope this helps.

Nice, thank you! I shall definitely give it a look. Oh and thanks for the help when it comes to stats. Should cut things down significantly in terms of time. 

Well, I gave it a watch and despite having issues with the series itself I was very impressed by how they handled the Fictionals. I really like the idea of despite having freewill they are still constrained to their original narratives. For example Moriarty cannot be killed unless he falls off a great height akin to the ending of the Reichenbach Falls. Might be useful if any of the Fictional characters manage to escape into the real world, and could make them excellent reoccurring threats. 

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With the kind help and advice of thereviewer, I have managed to compile my Random 100 Sided Dice Fictional Characters Encounter. To truly capture the feel of the marvellous 'Mind Robber' and the sense of uneasiness present early on in the serial this is what I have come up with.

1. The Highwayrat

2. The Crooked Man

3. Harold Steptoe

4. Noddy and Big-Ears

5. Captain James Bigglesworth

6. The Gruffalo

7. An Ogre

8. The Karkus

9. A Chamber of Vampires

10. Jason Voorhees

11. The Hound of the Baskervilles

12. Winnie the Pooh

13. Robot Legionnaires

14. The Gloamglozer

15. James Bond

16. Four Kleptons (Fictionalised)

17. Dracula

18. The Invisible Man

19. The Toclafane

20. A Xenomorph

21. Mr. Toad

22. Alf

23. The Saucermen

24. Werewolves

25. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

26. Sweeny Todd

27. Mind Flayers

28. Long John Silver

29. The Headless Horseman/Ichabod Crane

30. The Scarecrow

31. Jenny Everywhere

32. The Big Bad Wolf

33. A Cat Funeral Procession

34. Slappy the Dummy

35. Stick Man

36. Lemuel Gulliver

37. Rhonda

38. Zombies

39. The White Rabbit

40. Weylanni

41. Orinoco/Wellington/Great Uncle Bulgaria

42. The Mad Hatter/The March Hare/The Dormouse

43. Worzel Gummidge

44. The Cheshire Cat

45. Fantomas

46. The Caterpillar

47. Sherlock Holmes

48. The Duchess and the Cook

49. Rapunzel

50. Ronald McDonald

51. The Jolly Green Giant

52. Rupert Bear

53. The Snow Miser and the Heat Miser

54. The Zanti

55. Dorothy and Toto

56. Bugs Bunny

57. Living Steel

58. The Queen of Hearts/The King of Hearts/Playing Card Soldiers

59. Gelatinous Cube

60. Red Riding Hood

61. Tick-Tock the Crocodile

62. The Joker

63. The Borg

64. Parasite

65. The Wicked Witch of the West/ Flying Monkeys

66. The Ventriloquist and Scarface

67. Jack the Ripper (Fictionalised)

68. Mr. Stabs and Luko

69. Bugsy Malone

70. Adolf Hitler (Fictionalised)

71. Captain Nazi

72. White Robots

73. Dennis the Menace and Gnasher

74. Frankenstein’s Monster

75. The Artful Dodger

76. Achilles ‘Decimator’ Smith

77. Ayesha, aka She-Who-Must-Be-Destroyed

78. Albion, aka Peter Hunter

79. Mandrake the Magician

80. Baron Blood

81. Black Star

82. Cobra, aka Luciphor, aka The Wizard

83. Dr. Mabuse

84. Doctor Satira

85. The Brood

86. Mr. Fox

87. Enforcement Droid 209

88. Protector 101 Series Security Robot

89. Martians/Fighting Machines/Flying Machines

90. E-T the Extraterrestial

91. Toy Soldiers

92. Beholder

93. The Rook King

94. A Dragon

95. Pol and Pax

96. The Cat in the Hat/Thing One/Thing Two

97. Hit Girl

98. The Diddymen

99. Ratty/Mole/Badger

100. Sapphire and Steel

Sadly, not every character I originally wanted could fit into this list (even some of the more questionable controversial choices) However, I hope the players enjoy this random element when traversing the mysterious realm of the Land of Fiction. To fully elaborate on some of the characters, As seen in my LOF adventure idea, Professor Moriarty and a manipulated Controller have given free will to many of the villains scattered around the land and who are employed shall we say in his service. However, there are some villains who are rogue elements and who still have to follow the rules of their respective narrative, unaware of the fact they are merely a Fictional creation of long dead writers. The Xenomorph being one of them as well as the various characters of Wonderland. The Crooked Man on the other hand as seen in the 4th Dr Big Finish Audio of the same name will be aware of Moriartys plan, but will be another rogue element who delights in causing as much pain as possible.

[thereviewer]

Feb 7, 2018 20:55:15 GMT @toymaker66 said:

With the kind help and advice of thereviewer, I have managed to compile my Random 100 Sided Dice Fictional Characters Encounter. To truly capture the feel of the marvellous 'Mind Robber' and the sense of uneasiness present early on in the serial this is what I have come up with.

1. The Highwayrat

2. The Crooked Man

3. Harold Steptoe

4. Noddy and Big-Ears

5. Captain James Bigglesworth

6. The Gruffalo

7. An Ogre

8. The Karkus

9. A Chamber of Vampires

10. Jason Voorhees

11. The Hound of the Baskervilles

12. Winnie the Pooh

13. Robot Legionnaires

14. The Gloamglozer

15. James Bond

16. Four Kleptons (Fictionalised)

17. Dracula

18. The Invisible Man

19. The Toclafane

20. A Xenomorph

21. Mr. Toad

22. Alf

23. The Saucermen

24. Werewolves

25. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

26. Sweeny Todd

27. Mind Flayers

28. Long John Silver

29. The Headless Horseman/Ichabod Crane

30. The Scarecrow

31. Jenny Everywhere

32. The Big Bad Wolf

33. A Cat Funeral Procession

34. Slappy the Dummy

35. Stick Man

36. Lemuel Gulliver

37. Rhonda

38. Zombies

39. The White Rabbit

40. Weylanni

41. Orinoco/Wellington/Great Uncle Bulgaria

42. The Mad Hatter/The March Hare/The Dormouse

43. Worzel Gummidge

44. The Cheshire Cat

45. Fantomas

46. The Caterpillar

47. Sherlock Holmes

48. The Duchess and the Cook

49. Rapunzel

50. Ronald McDonald

51. The Jolly Green Giant

52. Rupert Bear

53. The Snow Miser and the Heat Miser

54. The Zanti

55. Dorothy and Toto

56. Bugs Bunny

57. Living Steel

58. The Queen of Hearts/The King of Hearts/Playing Card Soldiers

59. Gelatinous Cube

60. Red Riding Hood

61. Tick-Tock the Crocodile

62. The Joker

63. The Borg

64. Parasite

65. The Wicked Witch of the West/ Flying Monkeys

66. The Ventriloquist and Scarface

67. Jack the Ripper (Fictionalised)

68. Mr. Stabs and Luko

69. Bugsy Malone

70. Adolf Hitler (Fictionalised)

71. Captain Nazi

72. White Robots

73. Dennis the Menace and Gnasher

74. Frankenstein’s Monster

75. The Artful Dodger

76. Achilles ‘Decimator’ Smith

77. Ayesha, aka She-Who-Must-Be-Destroyed

78. Albion, aka Peter Hunter

79. Mandrake the Magician

80. Baron Blood

81. Black Star

82. Cobra, aka Luciphor, aka The Wizard

83. Dr. Mabuse

84. Doctor Satira

85. The Brood

86. Mr. Fox

87. Enforcement Droid 209

88. Protector 101 Series Security Robot

89. Martians/Fighting Machines/Flying Machines

90. E-T the Extraterrestial

91. Toy Soldiers

92. Beholder

93. The Rook King

94. A Dragon

95. Pol and Pax

96. The Cat in the Hat/Thing One/Thing Two

97. Hit Girl

98. The Diddymen

99. Ratty/Mole/Badger

100. Sapphire and Steel

Sadly, not every character I originally wanted could fit into this list (even some of the more questionable controversial choices) However, I hope the players enjoy this random element when traversing the mysterious realm of the Land of Fiction. To fully elaborate on some of the characters, As seen in my LOF adventure idea, Professor Moriarty and a manipulated Controller have given free will to many of the villains scattered around the land and who are employed shall we say in his service. However, there are some villains who are rogue elements and who still have to follow the rules of their respective narrative, unaware of the fact they are merely a Fictional creation of long dead writers. The Xenomorph being one of them as well as the various characters of Wonderland. The Crooked Man on the other hand as seen in the 4th Dr Big Finish Audio of the same name will be aware of Moriartys plan, but will be another rogue element who delights in causing as much pain as possible.

Thanks for giving me some credit. I recently received the complete collection of the DWAITAS Doctor Sourcebooks (at least until the Twelfth Sourcebook comes out hopefully this year), so I decided to re-read the Mind Robber while helping you. It is fitting to see Hit-Girl included here considering next Wednesday (on Valentine's Day no less), we're getting an all-new Kick-A** series reuniting Mark Millar and John Romita Jr published by Image Comics and featuring an all-new Kick-A** who's NOT Dave Lewziski. This will be followed up the week or two after by a new Hit-Girl series. Millar is writing but Romita Jr will NOT be doing the artwork for that one sadly. It's okay though. I'm just glad we're getting more Kick-A** without forcibly bringing Dave Lewziski back since I feel that his story was wrapped up in Kick-A** 3. Still, it'd be nice to have a cameo from him in the new Kick-A** comic is all.

Also, if you ever plan a return to the land of fiction, here's some other characters you can use:

1) Annie Wilkes from Stephen King's Misery

2) Patrick Bateman from American Psycho

3) The Loser's Club from Stephen King's IT

4) Eleven from Stranger Things

Just some ideas to throw around. I might even do a visit to the land of Fiction in my Adventures of Kanya campaign. Who knows?

Anyways, can't wait to hear how it goes!

[Catsmate]

Feb 7, 2018 20:55:15 GMT @toymaker66 said:

With the kind help and advice of thereviewer, I have managed to compile my Random 100 Sided Dice Fictional Characters Encounter. To truly capture the feel of the marvellous 'Mind Robber' and the sense of uneasiness present early on in the serial this is what I have come up with. <brevity snip>

Sadly, not every character I originally wanted could fit into this list (even some of the more questionable controversial choices) However, I hope the players enjoy this random element when traversing the mysterious realm of the Land of Fiction. To fully elaborate on some of the characters, As seen in my LOF adventure idea, Professor Moriarty and a manipulated Controller have given free will to many of the villains scattered around the land and who are employed shall we say in his service. However, there are some villains who are rogue elements and who still have to follow the rules of their respective narrative, unaware of the fact they are merely a Fictional creation of long dead writers. The Xenomorph being one of them as well as the various characters of Wonderland. The Crooked Man on the other hand as seen in the 4th Dr Big Finish Audio of the same name will be aware of Moriartys plan, but will be another rogue element who delights in causing as much pain as possible.

I like this. One thing that that jumped to mind is, after rolling the encounter roll another die to determine the nature of the person. For example say you roll 47, Sherlock Holmes. Then roll 1D6:
1-3: It's the "normal" Holmes as portrayed generally in media.
4: It's a slightly different Holmes, for example the portrayal from Kurland's Moriarty novels. A capable detective but obsessed with Moriarty and tends to see his plots absolutely everywhere.
5: It's actually Holmes the master criminal. A ruthless but honourable antagonist.
6: It's Holmes the addict, barely capable of functioning.

You could have variations of most of the characters. 

• Worzel Gummidge could be a lovable if idiotic animated scarecrow or a sinister monster.
  
• Biggles could be the heroic, if jingoistic, adventurer or a complete militarist, obsessed with conquest. He could be an AH version from a fascist Britain.
  
  
• Rupert Bear or Ratty/Mole/Badger could be the versions from childrens' stories, or the uplifted animals created by Alphonse Moreau in Volume II of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
  
  

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Feb 8, 2018 10:35:06 GMT Catsmate said:

Feb 7, 2018 20:55:15 GMT @toymaker66 said:

With the kind help and advice of thereviewer, I have managed to compile my Random 100 Sided Dice Fictional Characters Encounter. To truly capture the feel of the marvellous 'Mind Robber' and the sense of uneasiness present early on in the serial this is what I have come up with. <brevity snip>

Sadly, not every character I originally wanted could fit into this list (even some of the more questionable controversial choices) However, I hope the players enjoy this random element when traversing the mysterious realm of the Land of Fiction. To fully elaborate on some of the characters, As seen in my LOF adventure idea, Professor Moriarty and a manipulated Controller have given free will to many of the villains scattered around the land and who are employed shall we say in his service. However, there are some villains who are rogue elements and who still have to follow the rules of their respective narrative, unaware of the fact they are merely a Fictional creation of long dead writers. The Xenomorph being one of them as well as the various characters of Wonderland. The Crooked Man on the other hand as seen in the 4th Dr Big Finish Audio of the same name will be aware of Moriartys plan, but will be another rogue element who delights in causing as much pain as possible.

I like this. One thing that that jumped to mind is, after rolling the encounter roll another die to determine the nature of the person. For example say you roll 47, Sherlock Holmes. Then roll 1D6:
1-3: It's the "normal" Holmes as portrayed generally in media.
4: It's a slightly different Holmes, for example the portrayal from Kurland's Moriarty novels. A capable detective but obsessed with Moriarty and tends to see his plots absolutely everywhere.
5: It's actually Holmes the master criminal. A ruthless but honourable antagonist.
6: It's Holmes the addict, barely capable of functioning.

You could have variations of most of the characters. 

• Worzel Gummidge could be a lovable if idiotic animated scarecrow or a sinister monster.
  
• Biggles could be the heroic, if jingoistic, adventurer or a complete militarist, obsessed with conquest. He could be an AH version from a fascist Britain.
  
  
• Rupert Bear or Ratty/Mole/Badger could be the versions from childrens' stories, or the uplifted animals created by Alphonse Moreau in Volume II of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
  
  

I really like that idea, sounds marvellous. Would require extra work to chart up a Random Nature Generator for each character. (Should be interesting for the likes of the Cat in the Hat and the Diddymen but easy for the likes of Dracula and the Invisible Man) but that idea does sound great to further develop the adventure. After all after centuries and centuries of reimaginings and reinterpretations, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the players will run into the original version of that character.


Not to mention your idea of a nature roll could depend on what incarnation of Bond or Joker they meet. For example, the players might be able to handle a Golden Age, Silver Age or even Romero Joker, but how would they handle Ledger or Killing Joke Joker? Would also work for the Scarecrow as well. Could also for minor characters be a simple aesthetic change. Which version of the Cheshire Cat will they meet? Film, Television or even original book design?  


As you can tell, I really like your idea. And if you have any more suggestions, ill be delighted to hear them.

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In case anyone is interested, Fictional characters who unfortunately for many different reasons didn't make the list included;

1. Feathers McGraw (Wallace and Gromit)
2. Berk (The Trapdoor)
3. Danger Mouse (Danger Mouse)
4. Count Duckula (Count Duckula)
5. Cyrano De Bergerac(Fictionalised)
6. Phileas Fogg (Around the World in 80 Days)
7. The Psammead (Five Children and It)
8. Zebediah Kilgrave (Marvel 'Jessica Jones')
9. Beep the Meep (Doctor Who 'The Star Beast')*
10. Edward Buchan (Whitechapel)
11. Eugene the Jeep (Popeye)
12. Biffo the Bear (The Beano)
13. Big Eggo the Ostrich (The Beano)
14. The Logic Dog (Fighting Fantasy 'Spectral Stalkers')**
15. The Narrator/Rod Serling (The Twilight Zone)
16. Anthony Fremont (The Twilight Zone 'It's a Good Life')
17. Stanley Ipkiss/The Mask (The Mask)
18. Napoleon (Animal Farm)
19. Doctor Carrot/Potato Pete (British Wartime Propaganda)
20. Stig (Stig of the Dump)


*Changed my mind and want to use him for another adventure as a legitimate alien species.
**Great Choose Your Adventure book by the way, if you're interested in stuff like that I suggest you seek it out.

[thereviewer]

Feb 8, 2018 15:51:38 GMT @toymaker66 said:

In case anyone is interested, Fictional characters who unfortunately for many different reasons didn't make the list included;

1. Feathers McGraw (Wallace and Gromit)
2. Berk (The Trapdoor)
3. Danger Mouse (Danger Mouse)
4. Count Duckula (Count Duckula)
5. Cyrano De Bergerac(Fictionalised)
6. Phileas Fogg (Around the World in 80 Days)
7. The Psammead (Five Children and It)
8. Zebediah Kilgrave (Marvel 'Jessica Jones')
9. Beep the Meep (Doctor Who 'The Star Beast')*
10. Edward Buchan (Whitechapel)
11. Eugene the Jeep (Popeye)
12. Biffo the Bear (The Beano)
13. Big Eggo the Ostrich (The Beano)
14. The Logic Dog (Fighting Fantasy 'Spectral Stalkers')**
15. The Narrator/Rod Serling (The Twilight Zone)
16. Anthony Fremont (The Twilight Zone 'It's a Good Life')
17. Stanley Ipkiss/The Mask (The Mask)
18. Napoleon (Animal Farm)
19. Doctor Carrot/Potato Pete (British Wartime Propaganda)
20. Stig (Stig of the Dump)


*Changed my mind and want to use him for another adventure as a legitimate alien species.
**Great Choose Your Adventure book by the way, if you're interested in stuff like that I suggest you seek it out.

Interesting. It is probably better that you save Beep the Meep for a later adventure.

I can see this being played as an Adventure using the Tenth Doctor and having him encounter Kilgrave.

"Hello me! I am me!"

"Oh, bloody hell!"

Either that or have him encounter Barty Crouch Junior and let the Meta Humor start flying.

I remember John Barrowman explaining what he think would happen if Jack Harkness met Malcom Merlyn. You should look it up on YouTube, it's pretty funny. You'd probably have to search his Q&A Convention Videos, but it's still worth it to see how crazy he can get at these conventions.

Anyways, interesting at seeing what couldn't be for reasons. Looking forward to hearing about how the adventure goes!

[misterharry]

Feb 8, 2018 15:51:38 GMT @toymaker66 said:

9. Beep the Meep (Doctor Who 'The Star Beast')*

Beep the Meep is a fictional character???

Incidentally, the current draft of The Sixth Doctor Expanded Universe Sourcebook already includes several Land of Fiction characters, including a few not in your list, plus a couple more to come as the draft is completed.

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Feb 8, 2018 18:00:35 GMT misterharry said:

Feb 8, 2018 15:51:38 GMT @toymaker66 said:

9. Beep the Meep (Doctor Who 'The Star Beast')*

Beep the Meep is a fictional character???

Incidentally, the current draft of The Sixth Doctor Expanded Universe Sourcebook already includes several Land of Fiction characters, including a few not in your list, plus a couple more to come as the draft is completed.

Eh, I was thinking of having him originally be the villain of some childrens' television series from the 50s or something. But when I thought what a ridiculous idea that was, and gave myself a thoroughly good scolding I of course changed my mind. Beep the Meep lives on in the main Universe! All Hail the Almighty Meep!

[Catsmate]

Feb 8, 2018 15:51:38 GMT @toymaker66 said:

In case anyone is interested, Fictional characters who unfortunately for many different reasons didn't make the list included;

1. Feathers McGraw (Wallace and Gromit)
2. Berk (The Trapdoor)
3. Danger Mouse (Danger Mouse)
4. Count Duckula (Count Duckula)
5. Cyrano De Bergerac(Fictionalised)
6. Phileas Fogg (Around the World in 80 Days)
7. The Psammead (Five Children and It)
8. Zebediah Kilgrave (Marvel 'Jessica Jones')
9. Beep the Meep (Doctor Who 'The Star Beast')*
10. Edward Buchan (Whitechapel)
11. Eugene the Jeep (Popeye)
12. Biffo the Bear (The Beano)
13. Big Eggo the Ostrich (The Beano)
14. The Logic Dog (Fighting Fantasy 'Spectral Stalkers')**
15. The Narrator/Rod Serling (The Twilight Zone)
16. Anthony Fremont (The Twilight Zone 'It's a Good Life')
17. Stanley Ipkiss/The Mask (The Mask)
18. Napoleon (Animal Farm)
19. Doctor Carrot/Potato Pete (British Wartime Propaganda)
20. Stig (Stig of the Dump)


*Changed my mind and want to use him for another adventure as a legitimate alien species.
**Great Choose Your Adventure book by the way, if you're interested in stuff like that I suggest you seek it out.

How about:
1. T-Bag (the witch), T-Shirt and the current small blonde girl with a quest.
2. Rothgo, Belor and their teenage minions seeking the Scarabeus/Nidus
3. Simon and Liz [Timeslip]
4. The Tomorrow People
5. Professor X

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Great ideas for characters you have there, I do enjoy good classic British television myself. Hell, maybe I’ll just make it up to 500 and roll the dice digitally.

However, this is what I wanted to ask for some advice. In the Mind Robber, as the Doctor, Jamie and Zoe progress further and further into the Land of Fiction, they slowly realise they are being manipulated by the Controller, running the risk of becoming a Fictional character themselves as they try to avoid being caught up in the narrative, the Land has crafted for them. However, what I most wanted advice about is how to present that idea? That the PCs run the risks of being trapped within the land as a mere fictional creation, much like Jamie and Zoe eventually become. Does anyone have any thoughts or words of wisdom on the matter to how I could convey this?

[Marnal]

Maybe show the fictionalization having happened to someone else. Introduce the PCs to an enemy they don't remember meeting [because they were fictionalized]. But the Enemy of course remembers everything about them. Maybe some allies [that they don't remember] but who praise them for saving them from the Daleks on Ploticus V.

if you want to be real evil have them meet a child who calls one of the PCs daddy. And bit by bit the PC realizes that he had a son who the Controller already captured and fictionalized [which is why he doesn't remember the kid] and this 2 dimensional archetype is all that's left!

[misterharry]

How about having the characters start to take on the appearance of specific fictional characters? For The Beano's Dennis the Menace, for example, a character could suddenly notice that they're wearing a red and white striped jumper, then later a pair of shorts, next Dennis's unruly black hair, and finally being reduced to the limited colour palette of pre-21st Century British comics. They might also begin to acquire traits suited to the character they're becoming.

Of course, this means that they're becoming an established fictional character rather than being fictionalised as themselves, so it might not be quite the effect you're after.

[Deleted]

In case anyone is interested, Fictional characters who unfortunately for many different reasons didn't make the list included;

1. Feathers McGraw (Wallace and Gromit)
2. Berk (The Trapdoor)
3. Danger Mouse (Danger Mouse)
4. Count Duckula (Count Duckula)
5. Cyrano De Bergerac(Fictionalised)
6. Phileas Fogg (Around the World in 80 Days)
7. The Psammead (Five Children and It)
8. Zebediah Kilgrave (Marvel 'Jessica Jones')
9. Beep the Meep (Doctor Who 'The Star Beast')*
10. Edward Buchan (Whitechapel)
11. Eugene the Jeep (Popeye)
12. Biffo the Bear (The Beano)
13. Big Eggo the Ostrich (The Beano)
14. The Logic Dog (Fighting Fantasy 'Spectral Stalkers')**
15. The Narrator/Rod Serling (The Twilight Zone)
16. Anthony Fremont (The Twilight Zone 'It's a Good Life')
17. Stanley Ipkiss/The Mask (The Mask)
18. Napoleon (Animal Farm)
19. Doctor Carrot/Potato Pete (British Wartime Propaganda)
20. Stig (Stig of the Dump)


*Changed my mind and want to use him for another adventure as a legitimate alien species.
**Great Choose Your Adventure book by the way, if you're interested in stuff like that I suggest you seek it out.

Interesting. It is probably better that you save Beep the Meep for a later adventure.

I can see this being played as an Adventure using the Tenth Doctor and having him encounter Kilgrave.

"Hello me! I am me!"

"Oh, bloody hell!"

Either that or have him encounter Barty Crouch Junior and let the Meta Humor start flying.

I remember John Barrowman explaining what he think would happen if Jack Harkness met Malcom Merlyn. You should look it up on YouTube, it's pretty funny. You'd probably have to search his Q&A Convention Videos, but it's still worth it to see how crazy he can get at these conventions.

Anyways, interesting at seeing what couldn't be for reasons. Looking forward to hearing about how the adventure goes!

To be honest, the reason most of these characters were not included was that I either couldn't figure out how to include or them or wasn't sure how to stat them (Again if anyone has any suggestions on how I incorporate them, then maybe they can have a second chance to encounter the players.)  Which was a tremendous shame as I was a big fan of the Beano as a lad and I would have loved to included Kilgrave. Still, at least I can take comfort in the fact that they all exist somewhere in the Land of Fiction, somewhere... 

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Feb 10, 2018 13:54:39 GMT misterharry said:

How about having the characters start to take on the appearance of specific fictional characters? For The Beano's Dennis the Menace, for example, a character could suddenly notice that they're wearing a red and white striped jumper, then later a pair of shorts, next Dennis's unruly black hair, and finally being reduced to the limited colour palette of pre-21st Century British comics. They might also begin to acquire traits suited to the character they're becoming.

Of course, this means that they're becoming an established fictional character rather than being fictionalised as themselves, so it might not be quite the effect you're after.

I rather like that idea. I have been trying for some time to figure out how to implement that feature, yet it just didn't seem fair to have the scenario be "Oh, you failed your roll. You're are now a Fictional Character under the control of Professor Moriarty. Tough luck" Still, if I treated it like an infection, with the longer they stay in the Land the more they slowly succumb to its influence, with them beginning to change into character archetypes/characters they are very close to in terms of personality, that might just work. You might have something here misterharry, so thanks for the suggestion. 

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You're welcome! A further thought - you could have each stage of the transformation being the result of completing a challenge (remember how Jamie lost his face because the Doctor assembled an identikit puzzle of it wrong?). But not necessarily by failing the challenge, but how they tackle it. In the example of Dennis the Menace, the challenge could be to hit a target for some reason (open a door or deactivate a weapon or something) and there's a handy kid's catapult provided - Dennis's usual weapon. Whoever uses the catapult to solve the challenge is a step on the road to becoming Dennis. Of course, you'd need some thought as to how to manipulate the right character to attempt the right challenges... hmmm... maybe that's a step too far.

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Feb 10, 2018 18:35:29 GMT misterharry said:

You're welcome! A further thought - you could have each stage of the transformation being the result of completing a challenge (remember how Jamie lost his face because the Doctor assembled an identikit puzzle of it wrong?). But not necessarily by failing the challenge, but how they tackle it. In the example of Dennis the Menace, the challenge could be to hit a target for some reason (open a door or deactivate a weapon or something) and there's a handy kid's catapult provided - Dennis's usual weapon. Whoever uses the catapult to solve the challenge is a step on the road to becoming Dennis. Of course, you'd need some thought as to how to manipulate the right character to attempt the right challenges... hmmm... maybe that's a step too far.

I like the idea. Its very similar to the scenario the Controller presented the Doctor when he was face to face with the mighty Medusa. If he slew her with a sword, he would be following a narrative and would become a Fictional character. Would probably more than likely give them a vast variety of options much like they would for a regular RPG game. Make them extremely paranoid and disorientated. What item do I use? How do I approach this puzzle? Make the wrong choice and you risk becoming nothing more than words on a page. Also found another character I was planning on using but unfortunately I couldn't. That character, of course, being the malevolent Papa Lazarou. All of us are great admirers of the League of Gentlemen and the works of Shearsmith and Pemberton. With our character of Mortimus being modelled off the character of Jeremy Goode from 'Psychoville' We thought it might be amusing if they encountered him, but unfortunately, for now, he must remain in Royston Vasey which is in some dark part of the Land of Fiction. I just didn't know how to use him. There's no way in hell he would work for Professor Moriarty, although I could see him going along with his plan to break the walls of reality and allow the other Fictionals to become real. 

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Feb 11, 2018 0:11:44 GMT @toymaker66 said:

Also found another character I was planning on using but unfortunately I couldn't. That character, of course, being the malevolent Papa Lazarou. All of us are great admirers of the League of Gentlemen and the works of Shearsmith and Pemberton. With our character of Mortimus being modelled off the character of Jeremy Goode from 'Psychoville' We thought it might be amusing if they encountered him, but unfortunately, for now, he must remain in Royston Vasey which is in some dark part of the Land of Fiction. I just didn't know how to use him. There's no way in hell he would work for Professor Moriarty, although I could see him going along with his plan to break the walls of reality and allow the other Fictionals to become real. 

And of course, you have The League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse as an example of fictional characters interacting with the real world.