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Post by senko on Sept 1, 2017 2:06:01 GMT
Recently bought and been reading through the black archive and I was wondering if the artefacts in the enigma vault are made up for the book or based on actual items that showed up in the novels or other sources?
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Post by Marnal on Sept 1, 2017 17:48:21 GMT
There isn't a defined canon for Doctor Who. The closest one can say is that everything in the book was approved of by the BBC.
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Post by Escher on Sept 1, 2017 18:24:07 GMT
Recently bought and been reading through the black archive and I was wondering if the artefacts in the enigma vault are made up for the book or based on actual items that showed up in the novels or other sources? Short answer: no. |
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Post by senko on Sept 2, 2017 6:30:25 GMT
So approved but not used, why do some of them seem so familiar to me then. . .
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Post by Escher on Sept 2, 2017 8:52:54 GMT
So approved but not used, why do some of them seem so familiar to me then. . . I think they are really well-conceived ideas, IMO as good as anything a series writer could devise. |
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Post by senko on Sept 2, 2017 20:17:44 GMT
So approved but not used, why do some of them seem so familiar to me then. . . I think they are really well-conceived ideas, IMO as good as anything a series writer could devise. Not saying otherwise just that some seem annoyingly familiar to me. For instance that dodecahedron with the hexagons on reading about that I thought I recognised it and that the last one had been filled by a mondasian cyberman and I recognised John Smith. He wants to destroy Gallifrey. Not eliminate, destroy as in go back to the dawn of time and prevent the time Lords ever evolving in the first place never mind the impact on history. He hates them for cutting him open, hollowing him out, altering his being and them pouring him back into his shell less and more and other as a weapon in their war. I know him. . . But if they're made up for the book why do I know him? |
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Post by misterharry on Sept 3, 2017 17:02:31 GMT
I think they are really well-conceived ideas, IMO as good as anything a series writer could devise. Not saying otherwise just that some seem annoyingly familiar to me. For instance that dodecahedron with the hexagons on reading about that I thought I recognised it and that the last one had been filled by a mondasian cyberman and I recognised John Smith. He wants to destroy Gallifrey. Not eliminate, destroy as in go back to the dawn of time and prevent the time Lords ever evolving in the first place never mind the impact on history. He hates them for cutting him open, hollowing him out, altering his being and them pouring him back into his shell less and more and other as a weapon in their war. I know him. . . But if they're made up for the book why do I know him? I don't recognise either of those from any spin-off I've read or listened to. Not saying that I couldn't have missed or forgotten something, but the TARDIS Data Core also comes up with nothing. To be honest, those descriptions only bear the faintest of resemblances to what's in The Back Archive. |
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Post by Corone on Sept 6, 2017 15:52:37 GMT
As far as I know, Walt and I made up all the items in the Enigma Vault. But having said that, many years of osmosis watching Who might have made a few familiar. Its not unheard of to invent something and then discover you heard of it earlier. But I must admit to having read very few of the novels and spin offs, so there is certainly no intentional connection  (although it is very gratifying to hear they are convincing, so that has made my day ) |
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