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Post by markrand on Mar 17, 2023 21:18:11 GMT
Our light-fingered waitress is tentatively-named Simone Granville. Not quite as overpowered as Lady Christine I hope? And she'd make an interesting complication for scenarios, lifting the occasional item that causes problems for the staff.
I'm not sure Simone would, unless it was to help her fellow heroes with their mission, steal anymore. Her last adventure, the one that brought her into the TARDIS, cured her of that habit.
Of course, she might be blaimed for a burglary committed by someone else.
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Post by soultaker666212 on Mar 17, 2023 22:18:00 GMT
I feel personally a set sort of adventure style should be established here to differentiate it between regular doctor who and something involving Me and Clara. What i feel works with this though is that they can remain at a location much longer than that of the doctor would. Since they are running a diner as well, they would probably stay at a location to keep their customers satisfied or generate funds etc something like that. This means multiple adventures can be set in 1 setting/location like for example say 10 adventures in Ancient Rome, they decide to leave and find themselves on Draconia in the 26th century and do 6 adventures there, they find themselves in danger and land on Peladon and spend some time there with 3 adventures. Its less arrive-sort out problem and then leave more arrive-sort our problem-stay and sort out more problems-leave if want to or need to. It can create familiarity with settings like how Torchwood did with Cardiff and Sarah Jane Adventures did with Ealing. Can allow for regular characters to show up in the diner and ask for help much better and also have stories where Clara and Me are away from their TARDIS etc.
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Post by markrand on Mar 20, 2023 15:55:17 GMT
Who is Ashildr? I've never heard of her.
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Post by misterharry on Mar 20, 2023 17:21:16 GMT
Who is Ashildr? I've never heard of her. Ashildr was the Viking girl who gained immortality in The Girl Who Died and made further apearances in several stories in Series 9. She renamed herself Me when her longevity meant that she coudn't remember the details of her original life. She was last seen at the end of Hell Bent traveling in a TARDIS disguised as a diner, along with Clara Oswald. Clara's lifespan was similarly indefinite, as she wouldn't die until she returned to Trap Street to be killed by the Raven, a fixed point in time.
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Post by markrand on Mar 20, 2023 17:23:43 GMT
Who is Ashildr? I've never heard of her. Ashildr was the Viking girl who gained immortality in The Girl Who Died and made further apearances in several stories in Series 9. She renamed herself Me when her longevity meant that she coudn't remember the details of her original life. She was last seen at the end of Hell Bent traveling in a TARDIS disguised as a diner, along with Clara Oswald. Clara's lifespan was similarly indefinite, as she wouldn't die until she returned to Trap Street to be killed by the Raven, a fixed point in time. Thanks. I must've missed that episode.
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Post by markrand on Mar 21, 2023 15:43:57 GMT
If they're in the diner, would they even know if the TARDIS went to a new location until someone looked at the newspaper?
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Post by Catsmate on Mar 21, 2023 19:22:11 GMT
If they're in the diner, would they even know if the TARDIS went to a new location until someone looked at the newspaper? Well I'd expect the 'external facing' section to alter shape/size/configuration to blend in. Though if they were 'inside' it might be trickier.
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Post by markrand on Mar 21, 2023 19:42:55 GMT
If they're in the diner, would they even know if the TARDIS went to a new location until someone looked at the newspaper? Well I'd expect the 'external facing' section to alter shape/size/configuration to blend in. Though if they were 'inside' it might be trickier.Yep. If they were inside the diner section, they wouldn't know it until they moved. Imagine the shock of the customer(s) sitting there or any who might be in the restrooms.
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Post by spydalek on Mar 21, 2023 21:15:20 GMT
Well I'd expect the 'external facing' section to alter shape/size/configuration to blend in. Though if they were 'inside' it might be trickier. Yep. If they were inside the diner section, they wouldn't know it until they moved. Imagine the shock of the customer(s) sitting there or any who might be in the restrooms. People being in the restroom is the leading cause of them accidently kidnapping people. After the fourth time, you'd think they'd check in there more often.
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Post by markrand on Mar 21, 2023 21:27:57 GMT
What about this? It's 1959. Ashildr had gone off-shift and was in the TARDIS' control room when two Girl Scouts, and their mother, enter the diner. Imagine their surprise, and maybe, Simone's when they move to a new location.
Edit: In truth, Simone, who is from 2010, wouldn't be surprised (she's seen it before), but the girl scouts and their mother would be when the street scene suddenly changed.
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Post by markrand on Mar 26, 2023 20:04:34 GMT
How many versions of Clara are there?
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Post by Catsmate on Mar 27, 2023 20:03:19 GMT
I feel personally a set sort of adventure style should be established here to differentiate it between regular doctor who and something involving Me and Clara. What i feel works with this though is that they can remain at a location much longer than that of the doctor would. Since they are running a diner as well, they would probably stay at a location to keep their customers satisfied or generate funds etc something like that. This means multiple adventures can be set in 1 setting/location like for example say 10 adventures in Ancient Rome, they decide to leave and find themselves on Draconia in the 26th century and do 6 adventures there, they find themselves in danger and land on Peladon and spend some time there with 3 adventures. Its less arrive-sort out problem and then leave more arrive-sort our problem-stay and sort out more problems-leave if want to or need to. It can create familiarity with settings like how Torchwood did with Cardiff and Sarah Jane Adventures did with Ealing. Can allow for regular characters to show up in the diner and ask for help much better and also have stories where Clara and Me are away from their TARDIS etc. I'd probably take that control away from the players; they're stuck wherever they've arrived until they have fixed the problem, they they (or at least the TARDIS) depart. Of course they might not know what they're supposed to do.....
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Post by Catsmate on Mar 27, 2023 20:04:20 GMT
How many versions of Clara are there? As many as the GM and players finds interesting, amusing and useful. Probably not more than two or three, one being the "original" Clara, unable to leave the precincts for long. They'd probably pass themselves off as sisters/cousins or similar.
Two ideas that have struck me. The Kingmaker left a pair of serving wenches in search of employment. And, what about an all-Clara crew? With Ashildr/Me and (perhaps) Jenny along, but (initially at least) all the other 'staff' are incranations of Clara.
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Post by markrand on Mar 27, 2023 20:30:01 GMT
How many versions of Clara are there? As many as the GM and players finds interesting, amusing and useful. Probably not more than two or three, one being the "original" Clara, unable to leave the precincts for long. They'd probably pass themselves off as sisters/cousins or similar.
Two ideas that have struck me. The Kingmaker left a pair of serving wenches in search of employment. And, what about an all-Clara crew? With Ashildr/Me and (perhaps) Jenny along, but (initially at least) all the other 'staff' are incranations of Clara.
Okay. Perhaps one of the Claras, not the original, is the lady burglar.
Being an American, I don't get to see, hear, or read, any of the "Doctor Who" spinoff material.
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Post by Catsmate on Mar 28, 2023 8:26:02 GMT
As many as the GM and players finds interesting, amusing and useful. Probably not more than two or three, one being the "original" Clara, unable to leave the precincts for long. They'd probably pass themselves off as sisters/cousins or similar.
Two ideas that have struck me. The Kingmaker left a pair of serving wenches in search of employment. And, what about an all-Clara crew? With Ashildr/Me and (perhaps) Jenny along, but (initially at least) all the other 'staff' are incranations of Clara.
Okay. Perhaps one of the Claras, not the original, is the lady burglar.
Being an American, I don't get to see, hear, or read, any of the "Doctor Who" spinoff material.
Some of the audios are rather good, BF sells to the US.
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Post by misterharry on Mar 28, 2023 8:41:57 GMT
Some of the audios are rather good, BF sells to the US. In fact, pretty much all of the spin-off material is available in (or for delivery to) the US. Some of the small press releases would probably be very costly in terms of shipping. But certainly all the mainstream stuff - DWM, Titan Comics, Big Finish, Penguin & BBC Books, etc - is available, and at the recent US dollar/GB pound sterling rate, would presumably be relatively cost effective to buy at the moment. If shipping proves too expensive, then most if not all the comics and books are also available in electronic format, and usually much cheaper. Big Finish and BBC Audio releases are similarly available as downloads as well as CDs (in fact, the early Big Finish releases are only available as downloads now). There's an awful lot to enjoy out there.
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Post by markrand on Mar 28, 2023 14:29:17 GMT
Okay. What if the original diner/TARDIS crew was the three versions of Clara, Ashildr/Me, and Jenny, with Simone joining a bit later, after becoming involved in a mission, the same way Tabby got involved with Stan? After that, other people join the crew, mostly because they were eating a meal or in a restroom when the TARDIS moved.
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Post by grinch on Mar 28, 2023 15:42:05 GMT
How many versions of Clara are there? As many as the GM and players finds interesting, amusing and useful. Probably not more than two or three, one being the "original" Clara, unable to leave the precincts for long. They'd probably pass themselves off as sisters/cousins or similar.
Two ideas that have struck me. The Kingmaker left a pair of serving wenches in search of employment. And, what about an all-Clara crew? With Ashildr/Me and (perhaps) Jenny along, but (initially at least) all the other 'staff' are incranations of Clara.
There’s probably an adventure there with the idea of someone hunting down these Splinters of Clara. Merely to obtain them as trophies or under the orders of someone else. Either an intergalactic poacher with Time Sensitive abilities or one who has one under his control. Perhaps another poor Delibird is being exploited for its abilities?
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Post by Catsmate on Mar 28, 2023 19:43:56 GMT
As many as the GM and players finds interesting, amusing and useful. Probably not more than two or three, one being the "original" Clara, unable to leave the precincts for long. They'd probably pass themselves off as sisters/cousins or similar.
Two ideas that have struck me. The Kingmaker left a pair of serving wenches in search of employment. And, what about an all-Clara crew? With Ashildr/Me and (perhaps) Jenny along, but (initially at least) all the other 'staff' are incranations of Clara.
There’s probably an adventure there with the idea of someone hunting down these Splinters of Clara. Merely to obtain them as trophies or under the orders of someone else. Either an intergalactic poacher with Time Sensitive abilities or one who has one under his control. Perhaps another poor Delibird is being exploited for its abilities? Indeed. Perhaps someone has encountered a few 'Claras' and is intrigued, even one of them. Or, as you suggest, someone using them as an Artron source for temporal experimentation. Even unknowingly, as a medium or psychic subject like Claire Brown. And what happens when a 'Clara' encounters something like the Cardiff Rift, or a crack in time?
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Post by soultaker666212 on Apr 1, 2023 7:52:37 GMT
Might be an interesting idea to make a campaign trying to find multiple versions of Clara for whatever reason perhaps?
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Post by Catsmate on Apr 1, 2023 20:53:31 GMT
A few slightly expanded ideas on where the diner might pop up.
One week they're in 1908 London, disguised as a Joe Lyons tea shop near the White City, for a few days, dealing with an alien presence at the Olympics and attempted interference in the pistol duels¹ Next they're in 2049 Portland serving up porridge to hipsters and waiting for the Cascadia Subduction Zone² to cut loose and kill a hundred and fifty thousand people while trying to prevent the capture of a group of disaster tourists. A month later they're on a station in orbit of Coe³, overrun with tough minded engineers and ineffectual patrollers taking a break from Hanrahan’s Bar because the diner have actual meat, until Mike Flanagan comes to investigate and brings his troubles with him.
Then it’s off to the Napoleonic Wars, 1814 London specifically, to ensure the schemes of Cochrane-Johnstone are frustrated despite the interference of one of his descendants in a stolen time machine, clad in the guise of a coffee shop, aided by a group of photogenic and suddenly wealthy urchins.
Next it’s <near future> Northampton (the one in Massachusetts), dealing with college students, ambulatory AIs and the unusually perceptive staff of a couple of local coffee-shops (unhappy with their new competition) while staving off a Vardan attempt at world domination through subversion of Ellicott-Chatham Industries. Then they're serving beer to Oxfordian students in 1355, not far from the Swindlestock Tavern⁵, dealing with drunken students and town/gown politics. Then it's off to backwoods New England in 1928, disguised as a Hi-Way Diners Club establishment on the side of a road in, waiting for something weird to happen....
1. A real event. 2. www.crew.org/sites/default/files/CREWCascadiaFinal.pdf 3. 4. That'd be the Honourable Andrew Cochrane-Johnstone, murderer, slaver, rapist and fraudster. 5. St Scholastica Day riot
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Post by markrand on Apr 1, 2023 21:16:23 GMT
A few slightly expanded ideas on where the diner might pop up.
One week they're in 1908 London, disguised as a Joe Lyons tea shop near the White City, for a few days, dealing with an alien presence at the Olympics and attempted interference in the pistol duels¹ Next they're in 2049 Portland serving up porridge to hipsters and waiting for the Cascadia Subduction Zone² to cut loose and kill a hundred and fifty thousand people while trying to prevent the capture of a group of disaster tourists. A month later they're on a station in orbit of Coe³, overrun with tough minded engineers and ineffectual patrollers taking a break from Hanrahan’s Bar because the diner have actual meat, until Mike Flanagan comes to investigate and brings his troubles with him.
Then it’s off to the Napoleonic Wars, 1814 London specifically, to ensure the schemes of Cochrane-Johnstone are frustrated despite the interference of one of his descendants in a stolen time machine, clad in the guise of a coffee shop, aided by a group of photogenic and suddenly wealthy urchins.
Next it’s <near future> Northampton (the one in Massachusetts), dealing with college students, ambulatory AIs and the unusually perceptive staff of a couple of local coffee-shops (unhappy with their new competition) while staving off a Vardan attempt at world domination through subversion of Ellicott-Chatham Industries. Then they're serving beer to Oxfordian students in 1355, not far from the Swindlestock Tavern⁵, dealing with drunken students and town/gown politics. Then it's off to backwoods New England in 1928, disguised as a Hi-Way Diners Club establishment on the side of a road in, waiting for something weird to happen....
1. A real event. 2. www.crew.org/sites/default/files/CREWCascadiaFinal.pdf 3. 4. That'd be the Honourable Andrew Cochrane-Johnstone, murderer, slaver, rapist and fraudster. 5. St Scholastica Day riot
Nice. Simone probably joined them a couple of places before this. Out of habit, from being a cat burglar, she keeps something she can use as a sap hidden close at hand.
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Post by markrand on Apr 5, 2023 16:31:33 GMT
As one Clara was a diner waitress, she probably knows what items, like a frying pan, she can use to knock someone out.
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Post by markrand on Apr 12, 2023 21:21:48 GMT
I started watching the current version of"Doctor Who" around the middle of the David Tennant era, so I missed a lot of the earlier episodes. In fact, I think the first episode I watched was "Planet of the Dead". Also, BBC America never aired, to my knowledge, either "Torchwood" or "Class".
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Post by soultaker666212 on Apr 27, 2023 17:42:31 GMT
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Post by Catsmate on Apr 27, 2023 20:34:02 GMT
That's from the novelisation of The Witchfinders isn't it?
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Post by soultaker666212 on Apr 27, 2023 20:47:22 GMT
That's from the novelisation of The Witchfinders isn't it? I believe so yeah
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Post by markrand on Sept 3, 2023 16:45:02 GMT
An idea I had was that the TARDIS materializes with its main door right in the path of our lady burglar as she's running from someone. The TARDIS crew is already there, waiting for her. When she arrives, Jenny, who is reading the weird newspaper, says, "Let's go. She's finally here."
As the door closes, our lady burglar looks around and says, in an electronically-distorted voice, "What's going on?"
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Post by Catsmate on Sept 3, 2023 17:24:45 GMT
An idea I had was that the TARDIS materializes with its main door right in the path of our lady burglar as she's running from someone. The TARDIS crew is already there, waiting for her. When she arrives, Jenny, who is reading the weird newspaper, says, "Let's go. She's finally here." As the door closes, our lady burglar looks around and says, in an electronically-distorted voice, "What's going on?" Rather like Daleks – Invasion Earth: 2150 A.D.
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Post by markrand on Sept 3, 2023 17:30:56 GMT
It's more like an electronic device to disguise her voice.
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