[Scenario Seed] Le Comte de Saint-Germain

[Catsmate]

Surprisingly Doctor Who doesn't seem to have made use of the Comte so far, a missed opportunity.

"It is perfectly true, Madame, that I made the acquaintance of the Countess of Gergy a long time ago."
"But according to her, you must be over a hundred years old now."
"That is not impossible ... but, as I admit, it is even more possible that the revered lady is talking nonsense."
                Exchange between the Comte de Saint-Germain and Madame de Pompadour, 1760

Born in 1710-12 (perhaps) and died on the 27th of February 1784 (also perhaps).
Artist, spy, magus (perhaps), linguist, immortal (allegedly), chemist and alchemist, confidence trickster, peace activist, diplomat, vampire (probably not), raconteur, spy and conspirator, lover, pianist and violinist, mystic, forger, pathological liar and poet (a mediocre one).

• There are a lot of 'supposedly', 'allegedly' and 'perhaps' in the story of Saint-Germain.

Allegedly he was Leopold George Rákóczi, third son of Francis II Rákóczi, Prince of Transylvania, who had supposedly died aged four, but actually survived and was concealed. The death story being a scheme to protect the boy from the Austrian Habsburgs, in whose custody he and his siblings has been entrusted.

• There having been some tensions following the Hungarian uprising of 1703-11 and other matters.
  

The boy had supposedly been entrusted to the care of a member of the Medici family and brought up in Italy, near San Germano.

• This might explain his wealth and evident education; it also explains why nobles would accept him so readily.  

Whoever he was, he started use the title Count of St Germain  in the 1740s.

• He also used the titles; Marquis de Montferrat, Chevalier Schoening, Count Weldon, Comte Soltikoff, Graf Tzarogy, Prinz Ragoczy, Conte Aglie, Conte di Bellamare, Marquis of the Black Cross, General Soltikov, Lord Stormont and Count Welldon

In appearance he was of middle height, strongly built, pale with 'extremely black' hair and a beard. He tended to dress magnificently but simply (favouring black and white) and often wore many jewels.
Certainly he was a friend of Louis XV of France, who allocated him a suite of  rooms in the Chateau of Chambord. Saint-Germain spent whole evenings closeted with Louis and Madam de Pompadour.

• In the memoirs of Madam du Housset she that the king spoke of Saint-Germain as a personage of illustrious birth.

He also acted as an envoy for Louis, often against the wishes and knowledge of the kings ministers.

Saint-Germain was certainly an accomplished pianist, a gifted singer and violinist, and a skilled composer (his violin solos and trio sonatas remain in print); he spoke many languages fluently, at least Spanish, Greek, Italian, Russian, Portuguese, English, and French, and possibly Chinese, Arabic and Sanskrit as well. He was a skilled chemist, having developed new processes related to the dyeing of cloth, a capable goldsmith, jeweller and a lapidary (having supposedly learned the cutting of gemstones in Persia). Allegedly he was also a mystic, alchemist (though there was a fine line between alchemy and chemistry at the time) and occultist.


Timeline.
An (very) approximate timeline of Saint-Germain's activities.

1710	Supposedly seen in Venice, appeared to be a man in his thirties.
1710-12	Born (maybe).
1736	The will of Francis II Rákóczi gives direction to Louis XIV to invest and manage property as custodian of his third son (the supposedly dead Leopold George) The executors of the will were the Ducs de Bourbon and de Maine, and the Comtes de Charleroi and Toulouse.
1739	Attended the University of Siena as student
1743	Vienna. Stayed at the court of Maria Theresa of Austria
1745	Edinburgh. Arrested as a spy (the second Jacobite rebellion was in progress) but released.
1745	Austria. Supposedly acted as an agent of Louis XV in the War of Austrian Succession to overthrow the Anglo-Hanoverian army and establish Francis I as Holy Roman Emperor. Maria Theresa was said to be his friend and he was noted as a musician and composer
1745	London. Diary entry by Horace Walpole: "The other day they siezed an odd man who goes by the name of Count Saint-Germain. He has been here these two years, and will not tell who he is or whence, but professes that he does not go by his right name. He sings, plays on the violin wonderfully, composes, is mad and not very sensible."
1746	England.
1749	The Germanies, acting as secret envoy of Louis XV on diplomatic missions.
1755	India.
1757	France. At the court of Louis XV and living at the Château of Chambord.
1758	France. Voltaire wrote of "The man who never dies".
1760	Holland. Supposedly acting as secret envoy of Louis XV.
1760	London.  The London Mercury published the following article: "The Comte de Saint-Germain presented a lady of his acquaintance, who was concerned at growing old, with a vial of his famous elixir of long life. The lady put the vial into a drawer. One of her servants, a middle-aged woman, thought the vial contained a harmless purge and drank the contents. When the lady summoned her servant next day, there appeared before her a young girl, almost a child. It was the effect of the elixir. A few drops more and I have no doubt the servant would have answered her mistress with infantile screams!"
1761	Holland. May have cheated the Austrian governor out of a large amount of money. Also met Casanova in Tournai (the two men did not get on well)
1762	Russia (according to Count Alixis Ornhoff) Saint-Germain was at the court of Catherine the Great in St. Petersburg. Made a General of the Russian Army.
1764	France. Acting as advisor to Madame de Pompadour.
1774	France. Met with Marie Antoinette and allegedly predicted the Revolution and the abolition of the Monarchy.
1776	Philadelphia (allegedly) attended the signing of the Declaration of Independence and designed the Great Seal of the United States (also allegedly).
1776	Brandenburg. Acted as court alchemist to the Margrave of Brandenburg.
1777	Leipzig and Meissen
1779	Hesse Cassel. Befriended the none too bright Prince Charles of Hesse-Cassel, who was obsessed with reincarnation, Freemasonry and alchemy.
1784	Hesse Cassel, where he remained close to  Prince Charles and engaged in industrial chemistry (dyes), alchemy, goldsmithery and gem cutting.
1784	Alleged death, February 27th.
	<after death>
1785	France. Acted a representative of the French Freemasons at the Great Convention
1786	Paris. Attended the tribunal  of Princess Lamballe.
1789	Paris. The Comtesse d'Adhémar said she had a lengthy conversation with Count de Saint-Germain.
1793	Paris. Attended Jeanne Dubarry at the guillotine in the days of Terror. Also according to the Comtesse d'Adhémar Saint-Germain was present for the executions of Marie Antoinette
1794-7	France. Possibly spent time in prison. Some of his allegedy writings on alchemy and the occult were authored at this time.
1804	Paris. Supposedly present for the execution of the Duc d'Enghien.
1815	Paris. Also according to the Comtesse d'Adhémar she met Saint-Germain in Paris.
1820	Paris. Again according to the Comtesse d'Adhémar she met Saint-Germain for the final time in Paris, saying he still appeared to be in his '40s.
1821	Vienna. Supposedly present for the negotiations of the Treaty of Vienna.
1838	Hungary. During the Magyar Rebellion he acted as poet, raconteur and more.

Gaming.
Well what Doctor Who game can't use a possibly immortal scientist of mysterious origin and powers? With a chest full of gems and jewellry.
How he fits in to a campaign depends on the GM, and how the Comte is viewed. There are several possibilities. In fact more than one could be true, as there was at least one person paid to impersonate him (by the jealous Duc de
Choiseul, Louis's minister of war) and Casanova also used the name (to seduce some of the less bright daughter sof the nobility).

• Interestingly Saint-Germain was active around the same time as Philip LeMarchande and the Duc De L'Isle, allowing some interesting crossovers with the Hellraiser universe, and addition to this thread.
  

Stats: I'm not even going to try, there are just too many possibilities.


1. The Fake.
Saint-Germain could simply be a con man of skill, able to infiltrate high society, hob-nob with monarchs and separate them from their money. And seduce their wives and daughters... Always on the move to avoid retribution.
And willing to act as spy, agent or envoy if the price was right.


2. The Prince.
Maybe he was in fact a prince of Transylvania, saved by a protective father (and relations) from the possible retribution of the Habsburgs who set out on a life of travel and not a little fraud. He might have encountered weirdness in his travels (aliens, time travellers, Silurians et cetera) and become intrigued (or driven mad) by such knowledge.


3. The time traveller.
Another of those renegade Time Agents, who ended up on eighteenth century Europe with a non-functional vortex manipulator, a few gadgets and some knowledge of the future. Too bored to settle down he created a new identity and set out to have fun, while not damaging history too much.

• Or he could have been an associate of Magnus Greel, who used a more successful time machine.

An accidentally Temporally Displaced Person, in the vein of Calvin Morrison, is also possible though the GM would need to explain why he assumed the identity of Saint-Germain.


4. The Time Lord.
Hmmm, lived longer than he should, seemingly unaging over the course of decades, master of a wide variety of skills, possessed knowledge of the future, spoke many languages. Was there perhaps amongst his possessions an elaborately decorated pocket watch?

• It's be the right time (pun unintended); the first widely used improvement to portable clocks was the cylinder escapement, developed early in the 18th century. Watches became a major fashion accessory.
• Though personally I find the whole 'pocket watch' thing a bit over-done. Surely the repository could be something else, perhaps confusing unwary PCs.

Perhaps a CIA field agent or other Time Lord decided to quietly hide out for a few decades, but his skills and abilities shone through the disguise. If he retained a few bits of advanced technology many of the legends surrounding Saint-Germain could be explained, for example manufacturing gemstones using a nanotech assembler.

Alternatively in the BBC EDA novels, Doctor⁸ spent decades on Earth suffering from amnesia; another Time Lord might have a similar experience.


5. The Alien.
Of course in the Whoniverse Saint-Germain might not be human. A shapeshifting alien (a Rutan or Zygon renegade?), a clone or other duplicate created as part of a Sinister Plan (Dalek, Sontaren or whomever), an android (was Kamelion unique?) or just something with a Shimmer, holographic disguise or perception filter.
So why are they travelling around eighteenth century Europe speaking cryptically, composing music and engaging in confidence tricks? Part of a plan, a malfunction, or just signs of developing free will and curiousity.

• There's no reason the alien had to land around 1710; it could have landed centuries earlier and been disturbed in it's stasis pod by inquisitive locals.
• If so how did it get locked away? Were the PCs responsible? In their future perhaps?

6. The Manipulator.

What is a human of the eighteenth century gained access to advanced technology, from a crashed space or time ship, a hidden cache or otherwise (possibly killing it's original owner) and uses it to manipulate history.

• The is similar to the plot of John Peel's excellent Missing Adventures novel Evolution. where a Victorian scientist acquires a Rutan medical kit and teams up with an industrialist to create human/animal hybrid slaves.
  

Depending on what equipment, and foreknowledge, he has access to Saint-Germain could be pulling the strings of the Jacobites (and early failure), the American and French revolutionaries, Napoleon, even continuing to the present day.

• Some sort of hypnosis device to enthrall people (though given Saint-Germain's enemies it doesn't always work), a device to manufacture gems, a language impact, immortality serum...
  

7. The Weird
Dark appearance, association with ancient Egypt, nobody knows his real name, may have been involved with occult cults, travels the Earth revealing mysterious technological secrets and leaves anarchy and devastation in his wake, plus a sardonic sense of humor.... 
    Bonjour, Monsieur Nyarlathotep


Comments? Thoughts?

[rulandor]

That is a real treasure trove of ideas!

The mysteries of history are one of the greatest sources of inspiration for DWAITAS campaigns. In my time as a World-of-Darkness-Storyteller I made much use of such mysteries like the Antikythera-mechanisms, and I plan similar things for DWAITAS or my Torchwood style hybrid of DWAITAS and PRIMEVAL RPG rules.

Arthur C. Clarke once published a book (or rather, lend his name to a book written by Simon Welfare and John Fairley) under the title Mysterious World, where they grouped ancient mysteries under general headers like A Cabinet of Curiosities (Chinese porcelain seals found in Ireland in 18th and 19th century and other things), Creatures of Lakes and Lochs or Strange Skies.

[Catsmate]

Oct 22, 2014 13:53:04 GMT rulandor said:

That is a real treasure trove of ideas!

The mysteries of history are one of the greatest sources of inspiration for DWAITAS campaigns. In my time as a World-of-Darkness-Storyteller I made much use of such mysteries like the Antikythera-mechanisms, and I plan similar things for DWAITAS or my Torchwood style hybrid of DWAITAS and PRIMEVAL RPG rules.

Arthur C. Clarke once published a book (or rather, lend his name to a book written by Simon Welfare and John Fairley) under the title Mysterious World, where they grouped ancient mysteries under general headers like A Cabinet of Curiosities (Chinese porcelain seals found in Ireland in 18th and 19th century and other things), Creatures of Lakes and Lochs or Strange Skies.

Absolutely. I find the weird, the historical oddities a rich source of gaming inspiration, regardless of the often mundane explanations. The Whoniverse allows you to embrace the weird.

I remember the TV series of  Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World, an interesting series though not as good as Connections.

[olegrand]

Ah! Synchronicity! I recently used the Comte as a NPC in a DWAITAS scenario set in the court of Catherine II of Russia (and featuring the leftover Clockwork Droids from "The Girl in the Fireplace", based on the St Germain / Pompadour connection)... and after much hesitation, I finally went for option 1 - "the Fake". I portrayed him as a flamboyant manipulator and raconteur, having sealed a secret pact with an eldritch alien entity promising him immortality...

[Catsmate]

Oct 22, 2014 19:01:16 GMT olegrand said:

Ah! Synchronicity! I recently used the Comte as a NPC in a DWAITAS scenario set in the court of Catherine II of Russia (and featuring the leftover Clockwork Droids from "The Girl in the Fireplace", based on the St Germain / Pompadour connection)... and after much hesitation, I finally went for option 1 - "the Fake". I portrayed him as a flamboyant manipulator and raconteur, having sealed a secret pact with an eldritch alien entity promising him immortality...

Yes, the connection with Madame de Pompadour has interesting possibilities for tying it into Who continuity...
What surprised me about Saint-Germain was the lack of prior use of him in the Whoniverse.

[olegrand]

Oct 22, 2014 21:18:26 GMT Catsmate said:

What surprised me about Saint-Germain was the lack of prior use of him in the Whoniverse.

That being said, larger-than-life historical characters (and perhaps even more lagrer-than-life historical impostors who pretended to have supernatural powers) are very tricky to insert in such stories - the same would apply, I think, to personages like Rasputin, Cagliostro etc. When dealing with such characters, you basically have three choices:

a) Go with the myth and take it at "face value" (eg St Germain is really an immortal ascended master or whatever) - in which case you run the very real risk of "hitting the wrong key", ie go in a direction which does not harmonize itself well with the established parameters of your imaginary universe (can one really become immortal through magic and alchemy in the Whoniverse? The answer is obviously "no" - unless "alchemy" and "magic" are actually Something Else Entirely, which leads us to the second possibility below).

b) Re-interpret the myth in Whovian terms (eg St Germain is a Time Lord, a fixed point in time à la Jack Harkness, an alien fugitive, an android or whatever) - in which case you run the risk of establishing a pattern based on the idea that EVERY historical mystery should have its proper Whovian explanation, which will tend to shift the focus from "adventure in space and time" to some sort of labyrinthine conspiracy theory where "history is a lie and everything is something else entirely", which might not be the most interesting way to explore the Whoniverse.

c) Debunk the myth (eg St-Germain was just a flamboyant impostor and raconteur); this has the advantage of keeping such characters "strictly historical" (as opposed to making them part of the "bigger space-time picture", with all the complications that might entail) and also allows you to inject some comedic elements in the story if you so wish. That's why, in the end, I went for the "Impostor" approach with St-Germain. But since this is Doctor Who, you may also want to involve such characters in events that are TRULY fantastic - which adds an extra layer to the whole thing, allowing you to use such characters as red herrings, interfering meddlers, annoying distractions etc.

[Catsmate]

Oct 23, 2014 8:43:35 GMT olegrand said:

Oct 22, 2014 21:18:26 GMT Catsmate said:

What surprised me about Saint-Germain was the lack of prior use of him in the Whoniverse.

That being said, larger-than-life historical characters (and perhaps even more lagrer-than-life historical impostors who pretended to have supernatural powers) are very tricky to insert in such stories - the same would apply, I think, to personages like Rasputin, Cagliostro etc. When dealing with such characters, you basically have three choices:

a) Go with the myth and take it at "face value" (eg St Germain is really an immortal ascended master or whatever) - in which case you run the very real risk of "hitting the wrong key", ie go in a direction which does not harmonize itself well with the established parameters of your imaginary universe (can one really become immortal through magic and alchemy in the Whoniverse? The answer is obviously "no" - unless "alchemy" and "magic" are actually Something Else Entirely, which leads us to the second possibility below).

b) Re-interpret the myth in Whovian terms (eg St Germain is a Time Lord, a fixed point in time à la Jack Harkness, an alien fugitive, an android or whatever) - in which case you run the risk of establishing a pattern based on the idea that EVERY historical mystery should have its proper Whovian explanation, which will tend to shift the focus from "adventure in space and time" to some sort of labyrinthine conspiracy theory where "history is a lie and everything is something else entirely", which might not be the most interesting way to explore the Whoniverse.

c) Debunk the myth (eg St-Germain was just a flamboyant impostor and raconteur); this has the advantage of keeping such characters "strictly historical" (as opposed to making them part of the "bigger space-time picture", with all the complications that might entail) and also allows you to inject some comedic elements in the story if you so wish. That's why, in the end, I went for the "Impostor" approach with St-Germain. But since this is Doctor Who, you may also want to involve such characters in events that are TRULY fantastic - which adds an extra layer to the whole thing, allowing you to use such characters as red herrings, interfering meddlers, annoying distractions etc.

Good points. And the current Who does seems to be balancing it's use of the tropes, e.g. Madame Vastra as the implied inspiration for Sherlock Holmes but Robin Hood as a surprisingly real person. It's always going to be a bit tricky to write around prominent historical figures.

However Rasputin while not (yet) appearing in any canon material, has figured in several EU stories while Saint-Germain gets hardly a mention.

[sirkalon]

as opposed to a pocket watch you could have a rusted locket, busted empty jewelry box or music box things that are nostalgic in nature but he couldn't possible open it could he?

[Catsmate]

Oct 26, 2014 13:57:01 GMT sirkalon said:

as opposed to a pocket watch you could have a rusted locket, busted empty jewelry box or music box things that are nostalgic in nature but he couldn't possible open it could he?

Absolutely. And no telling if it's actually his or something he acquired in his travels and talks to him...

[olegrand]

Oct 26, 2014 15:34:44 GMT Catsmate said:

Absolutely. And no telling if it's actually his or something he acquired in his travels and talks to him...

Synchronicity again!
In my scenario, I played on St-Germain's well-documented interest in diamonds (he supposedly had the ability to make them perfect, or turn several small ones into a big, flawless one or even to create them); he was actually under the psychic influence of a sentient gestalt-like entity existing as diamonds - by offering them to various powerful personages, the Count was helping the entity to build its psychic network (its goal was to Reign Supreme on the human race, of course). The diamonds came from a meteorite which St-Germain had found during his early travels and had established a special link with him, masquerading as a sentient "philosopher's stone" promising him the secrets of immortality... and the core, "mother stone" diamond was located in a precious, ornamented puzzle-box kept by the Count.

[Catsmate]

Oct 26, 2014 20:04:58 GMT olegrand said:

Oct 26, 2014 15:34:44 GMT Catsmate said:

Absolutely. And no telling if it's actually his or something he acquired in his travels and talks to him...

Synchronicity again!
In my scenario, I played on St-Germain's well-documented interest in diamonds (he supposedly had the ability to make them perfect, or turn several small ones into a big, flawless one or even to create them); he was actually under the psychic influence of a sentient gestalt-like entity existing as diamonds - by offering them to various powerful personages, the Count was helping the entity to build its psychic network (its goal was to Reign Supreme on the human race, of course). The diamonds came from a meteorite which St-Germain had found during his early travels and had established a special link with him, masquerading as a sentient "philosopher's stone" promising him the secrets of immortality... and the core, "mother stone" diamond was located in a precious, ornamented puzzle-box kept by the Count.

Fascinating. The obsession with gemstones is well documented (at least as far as that's possible with someone like Saint-Germain). [Technobabble] I suppose the diamonds could have the perfect crystalline matrix that amplifies the psionic powers of the entity. [\Technobabble]

And after the Sinister Plan^TM fails, fragments of the diamonds might remain, influencing humans psionic potential (and seeding scenarios) for centuries to come.

[olegrand]

Oct 26, 2014 20:13:17 GMT Catsmate said:

Fascinating. The obsession with gemstones is well documented (at least as far as that's possible with someone like Saint-Germain). [Technobabble] I suppose the diamonds could have the perfect crystalline matrix that amplifies the psionic powers of the entity. [\Technobabble]

And after the Sinister Plan^TM fails, fragments of the diamonds might remain, influencing humans psionic potential (and seeding scenarios) for centuries to come.

Exactly. The "mother stone" was in the process of possessing / merging with Catherine II of Russia, to begin a reign of (inhuman) "Shining Majesty". And it also provided the necessary energy source to animate two leftover Clockwork Droids scrounged by the Count in Versailles after Madame de Pompadour's ordeal - the two droids appeared to act as the Count's servants but were in facts his custodians. This allowed me to play St-Germain as a complex character, part flamboyant impostor, part unwilling / reluctant pawn of the supreme stone - in the end, he helped the player-characters to thwart the stone's plans so that he could regain his freedom (and they also helped him to maintain his "ascended master" masquerade).

[Catsmate]

Oct 26, 2014 21:13:33 GMT olegrand said:

Oct 26, 2014 20:13:17 GMT Catsmate said:

Fascinating. The obsession with gemstones is well documented (at least as far as that's possible with someone like Saint-Germain). [Technobabble] I suppose the diamonds could have the perfect crystalline matrix that amplifies the psionic powers of the entity. [\Technobabble]

And after the Sinister Plan^TM fails, fragments of the diamonds might remain, influencing humans psionic potential (and seeding scenarios) for centuries to come.

Exactly. The "mother stone" was in the process of possessing / merging with Catherine II of Russia, to begin a reign of (inhuman) "Shining Majesty". And it also provided the necessary energy source to animate two leftover Clockwork Droids scrounged by the Count in Versailles after Madame de Pompadour's ordeal - the two droids appeared to act as the Count's servants but were in facts his custodians. This allowed me to play St-Germain as a complex character, part flamboyant impostor, part unwilling / reluctant pawn of the supreme stone - in the end, he helped the player-characters to thwart the stone's plans so that he could regain his freedom (and they also helped him to maintain his "ascended master" masquerade).

I like it. Nice integration with both history and Who continuity (especially using the droids, too many bits of leftover tech just get ignored).
And the main plotline can be continued; for example was Napoleon's rather poor judgment in invading Russia really just hubris, or did he know (from journals written by Saint-Germain perhaps?) that there existed an artefact of great power there? Or was he under some form of mental control by a fragment of the diamond forcing him to seek it out?

[Catsmate]

BTW olegrand, are you familiar with the French Blue Diamond? It was part of the pre-Revolution French Crown Jewels, and thus could actually have been involved with Saint-Germain. It was stolen in 1792 and eventually was re-cut to become the infamous Hope Diamond, which of course is supposedly cursed:

The Hope is famously alleged to have been surrounded by bad luck. Marie
Antoinette who supposedly wore it was beheaded (in fact, it was actually
worn by her husband, Louis XVI, although he too was beheaded). Other
owners and their families experienced suicides, marriage break-ups,
bankruptcy, deaths in car crashes, falls off cliffs, revolutions, mental
breakdowns, and deaths through drug overdoses. It was even tangentially
associated with the case of the murdered Lindbergh baby, when its then owner, silver heiress Evalyn Walsh McLean, pawned
it to raise money that she ended up paying to a con-man unconnected
with the actual kidnapping.

If you're planning a sequel you could easily base it on this stone and it's malign influence.
Hopefully the Smithsonian Institution take appropriate precautions against psionic influences...

[olegrand]

Oct 27, 2014 14:32:25 GMT Catsmate said:

BTW olegrand, are you familiar with the French Blue Diamond? It was part of the pre-Revolution French Crown Jewels, and thus could actually have been involved with Saint-Germain. It was stolen in 1792 and eventually was re-cut to become the infamous Hope Diamond, which of course is supposedly cursed:

The Hope is famously alleged to have been surrounded by bad luck. Marie
Antoinette who supposedly wore it was beheaded (in fact, it was actually
worn by her husband, Louis XVI, although he too was beheaded). Other
owners and their families experienced suicides, marriage break-ups,
bankruptcy, deaths in car crashes, falls off cliffs, revolutions, mental
breakdowns, and deaths through drug overdoses. It was even tangentially
associated with the case of the murdered Lindbergh baby, when its then owner, silver heiress Evalyn Walsh McLean, pawned
it to raise money that she ended up paying to a con-man unconnected
with the actual kidnapping.

If you're planning a sequel you could easily base it on this stone and it's malign influence.
Hopefully the Smithsonian Institution take appropriate precautions against psionic influences...

Blue Nemesis?

Too bad St-Germain died in 1784 - unless, of course, he really was some kind of ascended immortal master.

[Catsmate]

Oct 27, 2014 18:22:46 GMT olegrand said:

Oct 27, 2014 14:32:25 GMT Catsmate said:

BTW olegrand, are you familiar with the French Blue Diamond? It was part of the pre-Revolution French Crown Jewels, and thus could actually have been involved with Saint-Germain. It was stolen in 1792 and eventually was re-cut to become the infamous Hope Diamond, which of course is supposedly cursed:
If you're planning a sequel you could easily base it on this stone and it's malign influence.
Hopefully the Smithsonian Institution take appropriate precautions against psionic influences...

Blue Nemesis?

Too bad St-Germain died in 1784 - unless, of course, he really was some kind of ascended immortal master.

 Maybe his mind lived on in this, or another, gemstone...

[Catsmate]

I've uploaded a revised and extended version of my OP to my Dropbox (link); 335kB PDF.