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Post by zebaroth on Jul 23, 2014 20:09:10 GMT
in human nature The Doctor becomes a human to escape the family of blood. let say while his human has relationship with a lady. a child results from it The doctor did not know about his son. the the rassilon imprimatur was still in his DNA just droment his son inherited. it all it needs to actvite and make John Smith jr in to time lord as a bit of aton energy from let's say a tardis
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Post by zebaroth on Aug 14, 2014 4:18:21 GMT
no comments i thought this would get some good ones
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Post by Siskoid on Aug 14, 2014 11:09:41 GMT
It could work as an alternate history to pull a campaign together, sure. Might as well make it Nurse Redfern, since there couldn't have been another lady before her, not the way he was acting.
Or screw Doc10 entirely. Human Nature also happened to Doc7!
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Post by Marnal on Aug 14, 2014 19:54:48 GMT
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Post by Catsmate on Aug 15, 2014 13:28:41 GMT
Hmm, a son for Doc 7 (or Ten) would be interesting. Shades of Auguste Lupa in fact. How much would he know about his heritage? And what physiological aspects would be inherit? Human Nature was set in 1913/14 so a putative son (or daughter, let's not be sexist) would be an adult in the early thirties. Hmm, perfect for a pulp game. Doc Junior 1 gathers a group of like minded individuals 2, and sets out to solve mysteries; mad scientists, aliens, horrible things from the dungeon dimensions (that's a lot of pulp and CoC scenarios you can reuse). You'll need: 1. A pilot; a plane is de rigueur for the thirties adventurer. Perhaps Biggles is available? - Or maybe a mysterious airship, augmented with strangely advanced technology
2. A heavy or two for physical confrontations. - A veteran of the Great War who was almost killed, only to find his limbs
replaced by metal and plastic. Now's he's superhumanly strong, but sometimes hears voices in his head and blacks out...
3. A faceman, to handle interactions with bureaucrats and similar. A sword-stick wielding Harvard educated lawyer perhaps? 4. An ethnic/regional stereotype, for comic relief and common sense. - Practice your Italian/Mummerset accent.
5. A technician/artificer type ('Fingers') of the Polton variety. Someone who can crack a safe or construct silver bullets when needed. 6. A medical man (or woman); someone needs to be able to patch up the hero and his friends. - Did John Watson have any children?
7. A mysterious backer; an aristocrat, scientist or government figure to supply cases and support (influence or financial). Perhaps someone who Knows More Than They Reveal about the hero's past. - Are his activities a topic of conversation over drinks in the Hourglass Club? Is he a member?
8. The Girl. Love interest, villainess, friendly rival or unrequited love. Or maybe she's a wrench wench, or even the pilot. Switch gender for a female protagonist. Or not. 9. An arsenal of slightly advanced weapons and gadgets. Plus a few barely controlled artefacts. 10. A base. Penthouse office suite? Dormant volcano? Undersea city? At least one recurring villain. Hmm, Fu Manchu (or Doctor Who Manchu) suits the period and genre. But of course the over-arching mystery is that of his own parentage; the protagonist is driven to find out more, guided only by the diary of his mother (killed during the Great War when he was a child) and the two souvenirs of his mysterious father; a Journal Of Impossible Things and a pocket-watch with mysterious inscriptions that seems to talk to him sometimes... Travelling the world (and beyond?) he rights wrong and helps people, but Who is watching over him? Why do odd coincidences save his life? And who sends those mysterious letters? Yes, this has possibilities. 1 Yeah I'm a bad person... 2 It's the thirties, teams seemed to be in favour.
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Post by Catsmate on Aug 16, 2014 13:17:21 GMT
I like the idea of a Doc Junior, Who/Pulp crossover so here are a few ideas that have been bouncing around in my head. 1. How much does he know about his parentage/heritage? (I'll assume a single son for simplicity) 2. How does he react to such knowledge when/if he gains it? "You're the accidental son of an alien time traveller" is a lot to accept. 3. Does the Doctor know about him? - Does Gallifrey know? An what's their towards such procreation? A possibly
useful tool? An abomination to be eliminated? A dangerously vulnerable effusion of the Time Lord heritage that should be monitored?
4. If he knows, does the Doctor care? And to what extent? I can see Doc 7 training a half-human son in much the same was as was planned for Ace and regarding him as a tool. So probably a fair bit of background manipulation, but not much actual information. Doc 10 would probably have a different attitude. - Of course a GM can always choose a different Doctor entirely. The EU Doc8 would be an interesting choice; he did spend a lot of time stranded/amnesiac on Earth, so perhaps he used a Chameleon Arch too. This could leave a half-human son reacting adulthood in later periods, perhaps working for UNIT unknowingly alongside his father...
- Or a different Time Lord; how would the Master react to learning he'd sired a son while hiding out as a human? Or Mortimus? How would such a son react?
- If you're feeling really pulpish you could have both such half-humans in the game, as the classic protagonist/antagonist match. Or the equally stereotypical good/evil twins.
5. Other family; does Doc Junior have any human half-siblings? A surviving mother? A step-father? In my previous post I assumed an only child with no surviving parents, the usual Pulp hero model (though Doc Savage had a sister). 6. Just what Gallifreyan factors has be inherited? Superior attributes? Genetic memories? Traits like Feel The Turn of The Universe, Vortex or Psychic? The ability to regenerate, or at least heal rapidly? - This bring up the interesting idea of hybrid vigour. Would a Gallifreyan/Human hybrid be superior to the pure-blood variety?
7. Social attitudes towards bastardy weren't exactly progressive in the Edwardian era, though the Great War offered opportunities for claiming to be a war widow for some social respectability. Did Joan ever marry? When and how did she die? If he was a nurse did she volunteer for wartime service or work at home? Was she killed during the war or in the influenza epidemic, leaving Doc Junior orphaned. If so who cared for him? - If she served in France perhaps she encountered Lady Jennifer Buckingham and the two got talking about an odd man they'd met (assuming Jennifer remembered her encounter with the Doctor).
8. What sort of upbringing did Doc Junior have? Joan seemed nice enough but how'd she cope with a baby, and the constant reminder of her encounter with the Doctor? What was their financial situation? (Assuming the Doctor didn't intervene). How/where was he educated? What friends did he make? What enemies? Did he remain in Britain, or perhaps move to the USA, Australia or somewhere else? 9. So, sometime around 1931-3 (depending on when Human Nature was set and how long the gestation period is for a Gallifreyan/Human hybrid) Doc Junior is eighteen and more-or-less an adult. What'd his situation? University student at Oxford? Impecunious writer of scientific romances? Petty criminal living by his wits on the streets of London? Mad scientist? 10. For a pulp campaign you really need a trigger. So, let's assume that shortly after his eighteenth birthday (June 1932) John Redfern, student of Saint Christopher's college Oxford receives a package from the solicitor who's acted as his guardian since the death of his mother Joan during the Great War. In it is his father's Journal of Impossible Things, a letter from his mother giving her account of his parentage, and a pocket-watch that belonged to his father. Reading the letter he's left dumbfounded; he'd always felt different from other boys but this is a lot to digest. He fiddles with the watch, bemused by the odd engraving and opens it. Suddenly he's hit by.....something. A myriad of images flood into his mind, strange worlds and events, creatures like nothing imagined by humans. A couple of hours later he's disturbed from his reverie by a knock on his door, but he declines the invitation to go out with his college friends, claiming illness. And in truth he's not looking so well, pale and drawn. - Alternatively the pocket-watch and journal could be the subject of a quest in themselves. Who's got them and how does John acquire them. Perhaps a visit to Farringham School will be required, or Torchwood's archives.
- Sinister solicitors weren't as common in inter-war fiction as they'd been in Victorian melodramas but there's an opportunity there for complications. How much does the solicitor know? Does he work for someone, like Torchwood? Is he an alien or time traveller. monitoring or assisting non-humans on Earth? Does he have more information than he's provided?
- Is there someone else looking out for Doc Junior? Possibly a lecturer or tutor in college? Did Tim Latimer/Dean opt for an academic career after the Great War and agree to do a favour for the Doctor? Or is there a retired Time Lord or two lurking in the ivory towers?
11. What changes has the echo of his father's bio-print awoken in him? Well that's up the GM and the campaign planned. Unless you're planning to introduce time travel traits like Vortex would be superfluous but a level of Psychic ability, some anachronistic technical skills or Hypnosis could be very useful. 12. So young John knows the truth, even if he doesn't necessarily accept it. What does he do next? - His knew found sensitivity to the odd might get him involved in something, in Oxford or elsewhere.
- Perhaps something is attracted to him, does he radiate some
sort of psionic signature? Something that fully fledged Time Lords can dampen but makes him "glow" and a target (King's Doctor Sleep uses this). - A friend might invites him to the family home for a holiday, complete with weird happenings. Young Edward Denbigh suggests that a quiet couple of weeks at Cheltenwick House is just what John needs, he's looking quite peaky. There's even an archaeological dig...
- Was this incident staged, a setup to test John? If so, by whom? The Doctor? Torchwood? The Master? Someone else entirely?
13. Once he's interested in oddities it should be easy enough to justify a campaign, somewhat along the classic Call of Cthulhu lines. Aliens. Time travel. Weirdness from other dimensions. Mad scientists meddling with Things Man Is Not Meant To Know. Sinister Plots, whether government, Nazi, Bolshevik or others. Strange artefacts found on archaeological digs. 14. Of course there's the gang. An inexperienced half-Gallifreyan will need some help with his work. Fellow students perhaps, plus a couple of experienced Great War veterans. Can they "feel" anything odd about the watch, or does John keep it hidden? Maybe John's not the only outsider in Oxford; there could be other aliens (like exiled Trions), time travellers (a stranded Penelope Gate for examples), psychics or former Companions around. Maybe his "sister" Jenny visits. 15. And finally, there's the nemesis. From James Moriarty to John Sunlight every pulpish hero needs one.
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Post by da professor on Aug 17, 2014 7:51:28 GMT
With respect to the possibility of a retired timelord, Professor Chronotis, who would have appeared in Shada, was a teacher at St Cedd's College, Cambridge for a VERY LONG TIME, including the pulp era and right through to the 1970s at least and possibly up to the present and beyond.
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Post by Catsmate on Aug 17, 2014 9:14:42 GMT
With respect to the possibility of a retired timelord, Professor Chronotis, who would have appeared in Shada, was a teacher at St Cedd's College, Cambridge for a VERY LONG TIME, including the pulp era and right through to the 1970s at least and possibly up to the present and beyond. Exactly. The stereotyped Oxbridge college, especially as portrayed in fiction, would be a perfect place for a retired (or hiding) Time Lord. Eccentricities abound and few questions are asked about someone holding a post for several centuries.... Incidentally the "academic detective story" or "campus murder mystery" genre offers many potential scenarios for a campaign set around a university in the 'Golden Age' era of such fiction. I'm thinking specifically of Innes' Death at the President's Lodgings or Crispen's Gervase Fen books. Dexter's Inspector Morse is a later example. There’s something about the university atmosphere that lends itself to mystery and oddity, mixed with academic politics and personalities...
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Post by zebaroth on Aug 24, 2014 22:32:05 GMT
With respect to the possibility of a retired timelord, Professor Chronotis, who would have appeared in Shada, was a teacher at St Cedd's College, Cambridge for a VERY LONG TIME, including the pulp era and right through to the 1970s at least and possibly up to the present and beyond. this cam to mind as well when oxford was mintiond
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Post by Catsmate on Aug 25, 2014 10:55:27 GMT
Well the only reason I mentioned Oxford, rather than Cambridge, was I'd been reading The Late Scholar which is set in Oxford in the early 1950s. Excellent example of donnish infighting and a murder mystery. There's no reason to prefer one over the other. Or you could create a new university, as Ramsay Campbell did for his Lovecraftian Goatswood stories. Though, as I think about it, Oxford seems to be preferred in crime fiction, e.g. the Fen, Morse and Wimsey novels, while I can't think of an equivalent set in Cambridge (other than the Matthew Bartholomew books set in the fourteenth century). Maybe Cantabridgians are seen as less murderously inclined?
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