|
Post by kaemaril on Dec 23, 2009 23:48:12 GMT
Hello JohnK Yes, as I recall Ian and Barbara did use it to return to their own time. I don't remember the Doctor setting it to self-destruct, but that's another matter entirely (especially where Hartnell's Doctor was concerned), and it's not like we can watch that final episode. We need the Who Guru! I can check The Chase on VHS. A search of DW wikis says the Doctor set it to self-destruct. I suddenly want to see if it is destroyed on-screen. If not, I have a new plot idea.. Another DARDIS was used in The Dalek's Master Plan, so there were at least two of them. So, it appears there's no official definition for DARDIS. According to tardis.wikia.com/wiki/DARDIS ... I think we can do better than that. I nominate Death And Related Destruction In Space ;D I'm going to consider the DARDIS a failed experiment - much like transwarp - to explain why we never see them again. The Daleks stole the technology from the timelords but never fully understood the dimensional transcendence technology (thus explaining why they couldn't open the Genesis Ark themselves), and found that the taranium core (like the one the Master obtained) was unstable in a dimensionally transcendental vehicle, leading to limited service life times and - eventually - explosive core breaches. Thus, the DARDIS Ian and Barbara used may, somehow (the self-destruct initiated by the Doctor failed, as the machine is already very unstable), still be out there somewhere ... and it's a ticking timebomb, waiting to go off the next time (or the time after that, or the time after that) it goes on a trip initiated by some poor unsuspecting time traveller who comes across a really cool piece of salvage ... mwahahahaha.
|
|
rsaintjohn
2nd Incarnation
The Threefold Man
Posts: 77
|
Post by rsaintjohn on Dec 24, 2009 4:00:53 GMT
Yes, as I recall Ian and Barbara did use it to return to their own time. I don't remember the Doctor setting it to self-destruct, but that's another matter entirely (especially where Hartnell's Doctor was concerned), and it's not like we can watch that final episode. We need the Who Guru! I have both The Chase and some of The Daleks' Master Plan and just pulled them out to check. At the end of The Chase Chesterson and Barbara indicate they want to use the Dalek time machine to return home, and the Doctor begrudgingly agrees to help them. "But you must follow my instructions implicity! Understood? Implicitly!" They all enter the Dalek time machine, then the Doctor and Vicki exit and it dematerializes. Next you see Ian and Barbara exiting a garage. Ian confirms they are where they want to be, London 1965. He runs into the shed, runs back out and he and Barbara take cover. There's an explosion inside the garage (you see the flash, smoke and the camera rock). "Well," Ian says, "that'll put pay to the Daleks time travelling for awhile." BTW, I don't think it's ever called the DARDIS in the story at all. A similar looking (cylindrical) time machine is used by the Daleks in episode 8 of The Daleks' Master Plan and sent with a Dalek taskforce to pursue the Doctor (at that moment stuck in Trafalgar's Square on New Year's Eve). Again, the Dalek Supreme just refers to it as "our time machine".
|
|
|
Post by kaemaril on Dec 24, 2009 10:03:29 GMT
... the Doctor begrudgingly agrees to help them. "But you must follow my instructions implicity! Understood? Implicitly!" Does he really say that? I'd have thought explicitly would have been a better choice. Weird.
|
|
|
Post by JohnK on Dec 24, 2009 16:11:33 GMT
Hullo, Kit, I can check The Chase on VHS. A search of DW wikis says the Doctor set it to self-destruct. I suddenly want to see if it is destroyed on-screen. If not, I have a new plot idea.. Another DARDIS was used in The Dalek's Master Plan, so there were at least two of them. Yep, I remember the one from "The Dalek Master Plan", and after reading an article on "The Chase", I believe that the Doctor does set the DARDIS (perhaps they were more like the SIDRATs seen earlier?) to self-destruct after Ian and Barbara return to their own time. Let me know what you find out, since I don't have "The Chase" on VHS (but wish I did); perhaps the Beeb will get around to making the DVDs of that one soon or some such.
|
|
|
Post by JohnK on Dec 24, 2009 16:17:40 GMT
Hullo, rsaintjohn, I have both The Chase and some of The Daleks' Master Plan and just pulled them out to check. At the end of The Chase Chesterson and Barbara indicate they want to use the Dalek time machine to return home, and the Doctor begrudgingly agrees to help them. "But you must follow my instructions implicity! Understood? Implicitly!" They all enter the Dalek time machine, then the Doctor and Vicki exit and it dematerializes. Next you see Ian and Barbara exiting a garage. Ian confirms they are where they want to be, London 1965. He runs into the shed, runs back out and he and Barbara take cover. There's an explosion inside the garage (you see the flash, smoke and the camera rock). "Well," Ian says, "that'll put pay to the Daleks time travelling for awhile." Excellent! Thank you for the clarification and establishment of the state of affairs from "The Chase". BTW, I don't think it's ever called the DARDIS in the story at all. A similar looking (cylindrical) time machine is used by the Daleks in episode 8 of The Daleks' Master Plan and sent with a Dalek taskforce to pursue the Doctor (at that moment stuck in Trafalgar's Square on New Year's Eve). Again, the Dalek Supreme just refers to it as "our time machine". Yes, I remember that sequence. What I have to wonder is whether the time machines used by these Daleks are based on the SIDRAT technology of the War Chief from "The War Games", which were presumably based on the Time Lord technology. The Daleks could have made some improvements, regardless of the inferiority of the energy source they were forced to use. So, we could call them Dalek SIDRATs to all intents and purposes.
|
|
rsaintjohn
2nd Incarnation
The Threefold Man
Posts: 77
|
Post by rsaintjohn on Dec 24, 2009 17:05:30 GMT
... the Doctor begrudgingly agrees to help them. "But you must follow my instructions implicity! Understood? Implicitly!" Does he really say that? I'd have thought explicitly would have been a better choice. Weird. Yep, I checked again. "Implicity". I wonder what the script said . WH was known to wing it at times.
|
|