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Post by Siskoid on Jan 31, 2013 15:00:16 GMT
Being a master list of extracanonical material featuring the 8th Doctor in need of RPG conversion for the WhoRPG Extracanonical Sourcebook Project. Splitting the material chronologically, this second list covers the extracanonical stories that would fit the Eighth Doctor Adventures era. dwaitas.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=xtrauni&action=display&thread=2073EIGHTH DOCTOR ADVENTURES (NOVELS)The Dying Days (Virgin New Adventure) The Eight Doctors Vampire Science The Bodysnatchers Genocide War of the Daleks Alien Bodies Kursaal Novel Option Lock Longest Day Legacy of the Daleks Dreamstone Moon Seeing I Placebo Effect Vanderdeken's Children The Scarlet Empress The Janus Conjunction Beltempest The Face-Eater The Taint Demontage Revolution Man Dominion Unnatural History Autumn Mist Interference: Book One Interference: Book Two The Blue Angel Novel The Taking of Planet 5 Frontier Worlds Parallel 59 The Shadows of Avalon The Fall of Yquatine Coldheart The Space Age The Banquo Legacy The Ancestor Cell The Burning Casualties of War The Turing Test Endgame Father Time Escape Velocity EarthWorldVanishing Point Eater of Wasps The Year of Intelligent Tigers The Slow Empire Dark Progeny The City of the Dead Grimm Reality The Adventuress of Henrietta Street Mad Dogs and Englishmen Hope Anachrophobia Trading FuturesThe Book of the Still The Crooked World History 101 Camera Obscura Time Zero The Infinity Race The Domino Effect Reckless Engineering The Last Resort Timeless Emotional Chemistry Sometime Never... Halflife The Tomorrow Windows The Sleep of Reason The Deadstone Memorial To the Slaughter The Gallifrey ChroniclesThe Infinity DoctorsPAST DOCTOR ADVENTURES (NOVELS)Fear Itself Wolfsbane Fear ItselfTELOS NOVELLASFallen Gods Rip Tide Eye of the TygerEIGHT DOCTOR ADVENTURES (AUDIOS)The Company of FriendsThe Silver TurkThe Witch from the Well Army of Death COMPANION CHRONICLESThe Elixir of DoomBBC AudiosThe Scent of Blood Dead Time The People's Temple BountyOPTIONAL: COMICS, SHORT STORIES, MISC.Comic strips: A great site that discusses the Doctor Who comics: www.alteredvistas.co.uk/html/eighth_doctor.html - DWM, Radio Times, Prisoners of Time ( The Body Politic) Webcasts: ShadaMore Short Trips ( Femme Fatale) Short Trips and Side Steps (The Queen of Eros) Big Finish's Short Trips stories (Repercussions: The Time Lord' Story) Tales of Terror: Organism 96Target Storybook 9: We Can’t Stop What’s ComingDid I forget anything? What concepts should be pulled from these? Anything you personally want to try your hand at?
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Post by misterharry on Jan 31, 2013 20:25:59 GMT
I've got write-ups of the following:
Sam Jones, probably belongs in this volume even though she was introduced in The Eight Doctors which is listed under the Audio Era thread) Fitz Kreiner, introduced in The Taint Compassion/Laura Tobin, first appeared in Interference Book 1 Miranda, first appeared in Father Time Romana III, first appeared in The Shadows of Avalon Anji Kapoor, introduced in Escape Velocity Trix, introduced in Time Zero Iris Wildthyme, first appeared in The Scarlet Empress Spider Daleks, featured in The War of the Daleks The I, introduced in Seeing I Sabbath, first appeared in The Adventuress of Henrietta Street
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Post by Curufea on Feb 8, 2013 3:39:01 GMT
I've posted Faction writeups for a character from Alien Bodies- Cousin Justine - allthough in that book I believe she's only a Little Sister (the writeup is later on in her career)
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Post by Siskoid on Feb 8, 2013 3:57:09 GMT
Once we get through the 11 Doctors, I do hope to put together an Extracanonical Appendix that uses all the non-Doctor stuff, whether that be Faction Paradox, the TV Comic Daleks, Abslom Daak, Jago&Litefoot, Dalek Empire, the Unbound series, Iris Wyldthyme, Bernice Summerfield, the Peter Cushing movies, and of course, Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures material.
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Post by basalan on Dec 30, 2013 23:51:11 GMT
You forgot The Dying Days...
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Post by misterharry on Dec 31, 2013 12:05:33 GMT
You forgot The Dying Days... The Dying Days is included in the list for the McGann (Audio era) volume, as both it and the 8th Doctor/Charley Pollard audios are usually considered to occur in the three year gap between the novels The Eight Doctors and Vampire Science. So from the point of view of the Doctor's timeline, both The Eight Doctors and The Dying Days fit better with the audios rather than the novels.
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Post by basalan on Dec 31, 2013 19:07:28 GMT
Apologies..
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Post by misterharry on Dec 31, 2013 21:05:00 GMT
Hey, no need to apologise.
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Post by koloth on Dec 18, 2014 20:37:05 GMT
Will you be including the Radio Times stories Dreadnought -> Coda and include companions Stacy Townsend and Ssard the Ice Warrior?
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Post by misterharry on Dec 18, 2014 20:43:56 GMT
Will you be including the Radio Times stories Dreadnought -> Coda and include companions Stacy Townsend and Ssard the Ice Warrior? As I've got write-ups ready for both Stacy and Ssard, it's a definitive yes from me! Though whether they're included in the novels era volume or the audios era one is another matter.
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Post by koloth on Dec 18, 2014 20:52:08 GMT
As they appear in the Novel Placebo Effect would they not be in Novels?
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Post by misterharry on Dec 19, 2014 9:00:59 GMT
That would make sense, yes.
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Post by taikowolf on Jan 10, 2015 19:08:25 GMT
I have a question regarding the Compassion/Laura Tobin entry - would this include Compassion in both her pre and post TARDIS state, and would there be a Randomizer gadget added to her, as that was what prevented her from making any choice jumps. I've had a lot of interest in creating a sapient TARDIS character, but I always found it difficult to do with starting points and such without making the character very underpowered (and thus requiring several campaigns to empower).
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Post by misterharry on Jan 10, 2015 19:48:06 GMT
I have a question regarding the Compassion/Laura Tobin entry - would this include Compassion in both her pre and post TARDIS state, and would there be a Randomizer gadget added to her, as that was what prevented her from making any choice jumps. I've had a lot of interest in creating a sapient TARDIS character, but I always found it difficult to do with starting points and such without making the character very underpowered (and thus requiring several campaigns to empower). As mentioned upthread, I already have an entry for Compassion written. And yes, it includes stats for her as both Laura Tobin and the Type 102 TARDIS - and yes, the latter includes mention of the randomiser, which provides a -8 penalty for her to arrive at a specific location if she tries to fight it. Compassion's stats are not built on starting points, as there is no way to cover everything that Compassion can do. She's basically a very powerful NPC.
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Post by dmjalund on Aug 27, 2015 5:59:34 GMT
At the end of the McGann books, Galifrey was still erased from existence. maybe we should include at least one possible story line on how it was restored
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Post by Catsmate on Aug 27, 2015 9:49:13 GMT
At the end of the McGann books, Galifrey was still erased from existence. maybe we should include at least one possible story line on how it was restored Weren't there several explanations and timelines? I'm not too familiar with the period though as I'd given up on the EDA range by then.
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Post by misterharry on Aug 27, 2015 10:17:36 GMT
At the end of the McGann books, Galifrey was still erased from existence. maybe we should include at least one possible story line on how it was restored Weren't there several explanations and timelines? I'm not too familiar with the period though as I'd given up on the EDA range by then.
Not quite. The Quantum Universes story-arc had been wrapped up several books before the end of the series and wasn't directly related to the restoration of Gallifrey. That was left unresolved in the final novel, Lance Parkin's Gallifrey Chronicles, but it was implied that the Doctor now had the means to sort it out. If we include anything about the restoration of Gallifrey, it would be that solution that will be covered in the sourcebook. I don't remember there being an awful lot of information to go on, so it'll most likely be a passing reference in an entry about something else (Madame Xing, perhaps?). Unless we include an entry for Gallifrey itself, of course.
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Post by Catsmate on Aug 27, 2015 11:13:21 GMT
Weren't there several explanations and timelines? I'm not too familiar with the period though as I'd given up on the EDA range by then.
Not quite. The Quantum Universes story-arc had been wrapped up several books before the end of the series and wasn't directly related to the restoration of Gallifrey. That was left unresolved in the final novel, Lance Parkin's Gallifrey Chronicles, but it was implied that the Doctor now had the means to sort it out. If we include anything about the restoration of Gallifrey, it would be that solution that will be covered in the sourcebook. I don't remember there being an awful lot of information to go on, so it'll most likely be a passing reference in an entry about something else (Madame Xing, perhaps?). Unless we include an entry for Gallifrey itself, of course. Ah right. The later EDA sequence always confused me. And the whole Sabbath arc annoyed me.
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Post by generalrose on Jan 25, 2016 23:12:27 GMT
It's not something that needed to be done yet, but I've started working on my own submission for cover art for this volume. Here's my WIP imgur.com/7sfZMOR
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Post by Siskoid on Jan 26, 2016 3:09:00 GMT
Wow very cool.
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Post by generalrose on Jan 26, 2016 3:52:14 GMT
Thanks dude! Your covers have all been awesome and have looked really professional throughout this whole series. I think I'm going to make alternate covers that are a blending of C7's style and the book lines (mainly for this one, all I have left to do is change the font to Assidious like the EDA Books)
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Post by agathon on Aug 10, 2016 20:22:02 GMT
Is anything else from the McGann era audios going to be used like "An Earthly Child" or "Blood of the Daleks"?
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Post by misterharry on Aug 11, 2016 5:41:24 GMT
Is anything else from the McGann era audios going to be used like "An Earthly Child" or "Blood of the Daleks"? Indeed. There's a separate thread for the 8th Doctor audios - there's so much material for his extracanonical adventures, that we're splitting them into two books.
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Post by generalrose on Aug 28, 2016 23:40:20 GMT
Finally finished my cover art for this volume. imgur.com/a/mNaChI do wish that I could find some higher resolution copies of the TV Movie's promo materials. I am however, quite proud of the idea for the woodlook banner to match the console
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Post by generalrose on Aug 28, 2016 23:55:38 GMT
I've got write-ups of the following: Sam Jones, probably belongs in this volume even though she was introduced in The Eight Doctors which is listed under the Audio Era thread) Fitz Kreiner, introduced in The TaintCompassion/Laura Tobin, first appeared in Interference Book 1Miranda, first appeared in Father TimeRomana III, first appeared in The Shadows of AvalonAnji Kapoor, introduced in Escape VelocityTrix, introduced in Time ZeroIris Wildthyme, first appeared in The Scarlet EmpressSpider Daleks, featured in The War of the DaleksThe I, introduced in Seeing ISabbath, first appeared in The Adventuress of Henrietta StreetI know that The Eight Doctors is going under the Audio Era thread, but I'd like to put forth the idea of including it in both volumes of the sourcebooks. The Audio and Novel era's both present clear arcs that lead directly to the Doctor's regeneration (IMO) and it would be a shame for one volume to be missing the first story. Also, by it's nature, The Eight Doctors is a book and should probably be stuck with the rest of the novels
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Post by Siskoid on Oct 26, 2020 12:16:00 GMT
As far as the 8th Doctor books go, we're starting with the Novel Era (which does include some audios, granted). Basically this is pre-Charlie, and the second book will be Charlie-onward. The next step for me will be to generate a cover. Who/what should be on it?
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Post by misterharry on Oct 26, 2020 15:15:38 GMT
As far as the 8th Doctor books go, we're starting with the Novel Era (which does include some audios, granted). Basically this is pre-Charlie, and the second book will be Charlie-onward. The next step for me will be to generate a cover. Who/what should be on it? A few suggestions from me (in addition to the 8th Doctor in his TV Movie costume, obviously): Fitz Kreiner – Matt di Angelo played Fitz in The Company of Friends, so there should be some suitable photos of him (preferably in something like Fitz’s trademark greatcoat) Romana III – her appearance is based on silent movie star Louise Brooks, and there seem to be numerous colourised photos of Louise available online Faction Paradox – they have to feature on the cover in some form as they were so integral to the early EDAs; I’ve an excellent illustration from an old issue of DWM which features two masked Faction Paradox members looming over the Doctor – I can send it to you to see if it’s good enough quality for you to use (let me know if you want it) The I – I’ve a couple of pictures of the I which were used to publicise The I Job a few years ago (it was going to be a podcast series but has never been released) Iris Wildthyme/Brenda Soobie incarnation – Brenda looks like Shirley Bassey in her heyday, so there are loads of pictures to choose from! Iris Wildthyme/Barbarella incarnation – this incarnation is based on Jane Fonda as Barbarella so there should be plenty of options Martha, the Dogworld poodle – Iris’s companion features on the cover of Mad Dogs and EnglishmenA classic series Zygon – as they feature in The Bodysnatchers (and I’ve already written an entry which expands on them using info from the novel) The Cyberman from the cover of The Silver Turk
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Post by Siskoid on Oct 26, 2020 16:19:21 GMT
Hey send me whatever you think is appropriate and I'll try to make it work!
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Post by misterharry on Dec 9, 2020 15:56:19 GMT
I'm wondering if we should add The Infinity Doctors as an Off-Off Canon entry. The Doctor's incarnation is deliberately ambiguous but reads like it's an alternative version of the Eighth Doctor (who maybe never left Gallifrey), and the story features several characters and themes that crop up in the 8th Doctor novels, so there are links.
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Post by Catsmate on Dec 9, 2020 20:53:28 GMT
I'm wondering if we should add The Infinity Doctors as an Off-Off Canon entry. The Doctor's incarnation is deliberately ambiguous but reads like it's an alternative version of the Eighth Doctor (who maybe never left Gallifrey), and the story features several characters and themes that crop up in the 8th Doctor novels, so there are links. I agree, certainly he's described/illustrated as being McGann-like, mostly.
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