misterharry
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Post by misterharry on Jun 3, 2013 7:48:32 GMT
Thanks, dastari - I've got your PM. The revised text looks good - I'll give it some thought and get back to you.
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Post by dastari on Jun 3, 2013 8:32:43 GMT
Did I forget anything? What concepts should be pulled from these? Anything you personally want to try your hand at? Here's where I'm going to make Siskoid groan. I know its to late for changes now but thinking of Rev 2 next year this is what I would have said if i'd been here in January and saw this: Empire of Glass - Shakespeare (Older version), Irving Braxiatell (surprised by the omission of this one. He's almost a non-entity in Theatre of War and I know its not certain that there'll be an expanded cannon book so it makes sense for him to be here), teleapathic storage unit (gadget) Plotters - King James I, Robert Hay City at World's End - Monitor Bunker Soldiers - We never did get the Mongolian Raids location. Time and Relative - I feel like the John and Gillian sections should be allowed another page to address this story since they're basically Susan's companions in this adventure. Here There be Monsters - First Mate (Sidebar: The Underside of Time and Space) Return of the Rocket Men - Location: Ford's Rest (I know we've detailed the Rocket Men but there's nothing really very little about the second story in there) Flames of Cadiz: Location: Cadiz/Spanish Armada Library of Alexandria - The Mim, Hypatia Farewell Great Macedon - Location: Ancient Babylon Hunters of Earth - Cedric (being the companion of the tale) Gone But Not forgotten - I feel like any of the stories with no character writeup needs something and Captain Pike seems like an omission. Not sure who else to add so that it stays as 2/page. ideas - Jules Renan, Forrester from Planet of Giants), Morton Dill (The chase. Ok that's a joke), Ann Chaplet I know there's some worry about the thing getting to big but the actual sourcebook is 160 pages. We're currently at 96. These 16 would put us at 112. There are 4 more first Doctor audios coming out with some slight potential for a 5th so maybe 10 more pages for those would put it at 122, still a far cry from 160. With your permission I would ask my wife to supply the artwork for any entries that you accept as I know this has been one of the challenges in getting these guidebooks together. It's still a way aways but wanted to at least put it down there.
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
Dalek Caan's Lovechild
Posts: 3,236
Favourite Doctors: Second, Third, Fourth, Eleventh, Thirteenth
Traits: Empathic, Face in the Crowd, Insatiable Curiosity, Stubborn, Phobia (Heights), Unadventurous
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Post by misterharry on Jun 3, 2013 9:12:19 GMT
I think at the time the expanded universe sourcebooks were conceived, it was uncertain how many people were going to contribute - and indeed, until relatively recently it was just Siskoid and myself - so the volume of writing we were letting ourselves in for was daunting! If we tried to cover multiple entries for each book or audio, then it would be several years before we made it to the current Doctor - it's actually taken us four months to get to where we are with the Hartnell volume! However, some of the cases you mention were considered but not included for various reasons: Empire of Glass - Shakespeare (Older version), I did consider Shakespeare, but he pops up in several stories so could be included in one of the later volumes. I also thought about adding Kit Marlow. Siskoid and I discussed it but felt that Brax fitted better in the 7th Doctor volume as we don't really know much about his background in Empire of Glass. Incidentally, I do already have a write-up and stats for Brax - can't remember whether I've already posted it elsewhere on the forum though. I'm not convinced they're the same characters - I think that Kim Newman just used the same names as a cheeky reference for fans to pick up on. It's included under Ulysses 519 - we don't actually know much about Ford's Rest itself. Already listed for inclusion in the 3rd Doctor volume (against Shadow of the Past) - I thought it was too much of a spoiler to include them for The Library of Alexandria, particularly as that had only just been released. It was discussed, but the story doesn't really make much of the location itself. I don't know what Siskod thinks, but with more people on writing duties now it seems to me that there's more scope to cover a wider spectrum of entries from each source.
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Post by dastari on Jun 3, 2013 19:41:51 GMT
I think at the time the expanded universe sourcebooks were conceived, it was uncertain how many people were going to contribute - and indeed, until relatively recently it was just Siskoid and myself - so the volume of writing we were letting ourselves in for was daunting! If we tried to cover multiple entries for each book or audio, then it would be several years before we made it to the current Doctor - it's actually taken us four months to get to where we are with the Hartnell volume! I think that there is a confluence of issues. I know that one that Siskoid has brought up to me is not having the book get to large. I figure that using the actual sourcebook makes a good guide. That's 160 pages. Even with the additional that I suggested we'd stay under that for several years worth of updates. The other one is that Siskoid didn't like me coming in at the last minute suggesting more entries when he already had everything laid out. This one I completely understand which is why I wanted to have a post where I detail everything I want to add for Rev2 so that when its revised the space could be allocated everywhere appropriate and there would be no need for revisions afterwards just plugging the holes. There's also challenges with getting artwork and such, which is why I suggested using my wife who will be a good resource for anything that requires a picture for a person or alien species. Landscapes for locations aren't her thing but with Ford's Rest removed the only ones I suggested are historical so an appropriate picture can likely be found online. I think that this addresses all of the issues and am hopeful that if the concerns are addressed that this can happen. However, some of the cases you mention were considered but not included for various reasons: Here's just my thoughts on why these work: With Shakespeare I only recall him appearing in one of the Tennant stories on TV and one of the 8th Doctor audios. Even breaking them up into 2 books, the 7th and 8th Doctor material is going to be HUGE. I would suggest that in any case where a character can be placed into something prior to the 7th or 8th Doc books it probably should be unless their appearance in an earlier book is a cameo and didn't really have much to do with the story. That being said, I may have either forgotten a story or there may be a short story with Shakespeare and a Doc besides 7 or 8. The other side of that though is that using him here allows one to use him as a spy which is a really interesting concept whereas I would think that any other story where he's in it probably just shows him as a playwright. Braxiatell I think falls under the same criteria, 7th Doc books are already going to be humongous and he does more in Empire of Glass than in Theatre of War anyway making it a stronger tie in. As I understand it, the two things that Siskoid wants to convey by this is why is this character someone interesting that a GM would like to use as well as why is the story that they're referencing interesting so that I'll go pick it up. (Not that Theatre of War isn't a great book, its just that Brax isn't all that invested in the story) Oh and could you send me your Brax writeups? I really like this character. I've been on a Who hiatus for several years but I have all the Benny NA's and listened to the first few Benny series on audio an read the first few books that BF published for her. Brax is such an interesting multifaceted character. I wonder how you'd boil him down in a few words. IMHO a writeup on Brax for Who would be slightly different for one in the expanded cannon since there's just so much there and his character develops over time. As for John and Gillian, I thought they needed an entry for themselves since they're the "companions" for Time and Relative. It was only when I noticed that you guys had also included the John and Gillian from the comics that it seemed to me that some sort of sidebar or information about the John and Gillian in Time and Relative might be prudent. I like the idea of an adventure with a bunch of schoolkids (something like that is suggested in the first Doctor sourcebook) and stats for the Time and Relative versions of John and Gillian I think would be appropriate for that. Well that's what I get for not having read the whole online book yet. I thought we didn't have any content for Return of the Rocket Men specifically, just some combined content on the Rocket Men. I retract the request. Haven't yet listened to Shadow of the Past. I still feel like that since the Library of Alexandria is already combined with The Book of Shadows that there ought to be something specific to the audio adventure, so the Hypatia entry fits. Since the Mim are covered elsewhere I retract the request. Not sure about it being a spoiler though since even the back of the CD cover says that seamonsters attack the library. :-) Hmmmm...How about I change the suggestion on Ancient Babylon to Location: Macedonian Empire. That's better anyway since i'm something of an Alexander the Great buff and could talk about why that was one of the greatest empires of all time, not that it lasted for long as a single entity due to how it was mismanaged. Still Ptolemy's part of it lasted a long time, which spoke a lot to the basic governing principles of the empire. It was discussed, but the story doesn't really make much of the location itself. I don't know what Siskod thinks, but with more people on writing duties now it seems to me that there's more scope to cover a wider spectrum of entries from each source.[/quote]
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 3, 2013 20:42:57 GMT
Here's my point of view on it: If the character/etc. appears across several of the Doctors' adventures, then the best place for them is where they had the most impact and where we can tell their story.
If the character/etc. is barely described or makes little impact (like Babylon itself, all the action is outside in Alexander's camp), then I don't think it should be included.
If a character/etc. can be folded into another entry (as we've done several times) to prevent telling the same story over and over again in the same book, then we should do so.
If telling a character's story in an early book gets way ahead of the Doctor's timeline, an effort should be made to wait until the Doctor has caught up with the fullest story. It's another reason I still think Braxiatel doesn't fit the First Doc sourcebook.
And I am also wary of giving multiple entries to concepts that are limited in space and time. For example, many many characters native and restricted to the same location. That's a lot of space for the same basic concept, that a GM may or may not use. The questions that should be asked are: Is that concept useful to gamers? Can it be pulled from its native story and used in some other scenario? So for example, The Eleventh Tiger is represented by only a couple entries, not a whole slew of characters from the book.
I agree we can now cover a wide spectrum of entries, but at the same time, we can't stay stuck in the mud for completeness' sake. We'd literally NEVER finish a book. Major and well-respected stories should get a little more love, sure, but pretty standard stories that never made a splash (Here There Be Monsters is a good example, City at World's End another), should get their one entry and be done with it.
These are the reasons you'll hear me give for non-inclusion. It is in my opinion part of the editor's job to make these choices, if need be, after a healthy debate.
Shakespeare I think is a particular case because he appears in an actual episode and will get stats in the Doc10 book. The only reason we should include him is as a completely alternate version of the character, and that's in The Kingmaker, a Doc5 audio.
There are a couple suggestions I like (Cedric, for one), but a lot of very obscure stuff too. Modelling Ann Chaplet, for example, is incredibly easy for GMs to do, and I can't see her being very useful in any case. I can hang a story on Napoleon or Nero, but Ann Chaplet is just about Morton Dill level. These aren't Doctor Who encyclopedias, they're play aids. For example, all-purpose monsters to face are useful to gamers. Specific NPCs, much less so. So I'm very much looking at this from a gamer's perspective.
And I've got to think about the timeline. I've committed to the project, and it's already taking a lot of time (so imagine the 7th-8th Doctor books!). I'm grateful to all the contributors, but how long will any of them (of you) remain with the project before real life takes over?. The longer things take (and editing, laying things out does take time), the less likely we are to succeed. If I'm late with the product, enthusiasm will evaporate after a rash of frustrated communications. I've seen it on other projects (notably, my Doctor Who CCG which was hit with technical delays after 7 years of steady supply, which killed the project). I'm in it to win it, but that means I can't let it become a monster I can no longer wrangle. Just because official books are 180 pages doesn't mean it's a target number. I'm glad for thinner books initially, because 5-8 are going to be big ones.
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 4, 2013 12:18:24 GMT
That said, if you're talking about the end of year update, more things are possible.
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Post by dastari on Jun 5, 2013 1:22:10 GMT
That said, if you're talking about the end of year update, more things are possible. Yes that's what I'm talking about. It has to be updated anyway to include the 4 BF audios that'll be coming out next year. Besides at one point I'll probably be abandoning this because I have no interest in anything having to do with the new series but would like to continue working on the earlier content or if you ever pull in the Extra Cannon I'd be interested in that as well at least with respect to Benny. Anyhow just to explain my thinking and I hope it comes off that way: Here's my point of view on it: If the character/etc. appears across several of the Doctors' adventures, then the best place for them is where they had the most impact and where we can tell their story. If telling a character's story in an early book gets way ahead of the Doctor's timeline, an effort should be made to wait until the Doctor has caught up with the fullest story. It's another reason I still think Braxiatel doesn't fit the First Doc sourcebook. My thinking on Brax is based on your first paragraph. Brax had the greatest impact in Empire of Glass. IIRC he just helps Benny with a bit of research in Theatre of War. I'm assuming that since you aren't sold on the idea of doing the Extra Cannon that the Brax entry would only cover those two adventures. I can't imagine a Brax entry trying to cover the entirety of his adventures. I'd suggest leaving a lot of that stuff for the possibility of a Benny only sourcebook if such ever came out. That being said, I get that Empire of Glass already has a lot of entries. Shakespeare I think is a particular case because he appears in an actual episode and will get stats in the Doc10 book. The only reason we should include him is as a completely alternate version of the character, and that's in The Kingmaker, a Doc5 audio. It's a reason that I stated "older version". I did see the Shakespeare ep of the new series before I gave up on it but to me that version of Shakespeare isn't very interesting. However, Shakespeare as a spy for King James is a pretty neat concept. That, I'd play with. Again all IMHO but that's why I feel like Shakespeare in Empire of Glass would be a worthy entry. I agree we can now cover a wide spectrum of entries, but at the same time, we can't stay stuck in the mud for completeness' sake. We'd literally NEVER finish a book. Major and well-respected stories should get a little more love, sure, but pretty standard stories that never made a splash (Here There Be Monsters is a good example, City at World's End another), should get their one entry and be done with it. It's interesting that you use those examples since they're both stories that I feel were far above the average. For that very reason I feel like an opinion on quality is not the best indicator of whether something should be included. I'd think that the story content would be the indicator here. Usually this is a product of length although not always. So for instance I think that novels in general probably deserve more entries then 2-episodes audios in general. Short stories in general only need one entry. This isn't always true. By this metric Farewell Great Macedon should have quite a few entries but as you indicated there really isn't the content to justify it. I personally feel like it needs two entries to convey the interesting possibilities of the story but I'd never advocate 3. But for instance I feel like one entry for the Plotters was way to little and I feel the same about Here there be Monsters and City at World's End. Although you don't want this to be a plot synopsis if there are interesting ideas that could be used then I say use them - Again understanding the needs of deadlines and etc which is why I wouldn't ask you to include anything further in this version as it is way to far along. As far as Ann Chaplet it was just an idea to pair Pike up with someone. The Smugglers got no love in the First Doctor sourcebook and IMHO every story should have had at least one entry, which is why I suggested the Abbot of Amboise for the Massacre. Pike I think is a good one to include and he certainly steals the show in his scenes with Hartnell. Just thought it'd be best if there wasn't a half page of blank space for the rest, but agree that some of the choices I threw out were obscure. I was purposefully trying to go for those stories that the First Doctor sourcebook underused although I'd be just as happy to see an example of one of the Thals (but they at least almost got statted in the Daleks entry) or Sabethan and Altos (they were after all companions in Keys of Marinus but being a pair they don't fix the core problem). In the end, the only reason that I posted this was to give you a heads up on what I was going to suggest for the year end update. Since you're going to have to update page references and such anyway if you had an idea of other content that I'd like to add we could discuss what else might go in there and by that point hopefully its not a big deal especially as I should be able to get all the content and even the artwork pre-generated for you so its a simpler matter of just plugging stuff in. That being said, what about delegating some of the page layout duties? My wife is a heck of a photoshopper. If we laid out our own pages and sent them to you for approval you'd still have ultimate say over what went in there but then at least the page work would be done and you'd just have to drop it in. Just thoughts and trying to be helpful. this is an interesting and exciting project after all. I'm just now hoping that I can get ahead of the audio listening curve.
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jun 5, 2013 7:42:46 GMT
Just to add my two penn'th, my primary focus as to what to include is always on alien races and villains, as I think these are the things that GMs will most likely want to use. With regard to characters, for similar reasons it's companions and actual historical figures (and for this reason, there are a couple more names I'll throw into the mix for whenever we look to revising the Hartnell volume - Jane Austen from Frostfire and Thomas Huxley from the first issue of IDW's Prisoners of Time series). Other characters are generally less important to me as I don't believe that GMs will get any use from them - there are of course exceptions. I do agree with dastari that personal opinion as to whether a story is good or not should be secondary to what concepts within it can be used. (And incidentally, I also agree that Here There Be Monsters is more than just a run of the mill story! ) Incidentally, if we did look to add Pike to the Omitted But Not Forgotten section, I'd pair him with Cherub - just a thought. Finally, timescales for revised volumes - I had assumed that the plan would be to get a "first edition" for each Doctor out before we went back and started adding stuff to the earlier volumes, otherwise we'd keep putting the later Doctors off. I don't know whether talk of an "end of year" revision is meant literally, but I imagine we'll be very lucky if we have the first 4 volumes out by Christmas (and Cubicle 7 may well be in the same boat with the official sourcebooks) - not intended as a criticism, just reality.
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 5, 2013 10:06:29 GMT
You guys are well on your way to convincing me that the book could use more entries. I still want to to lay the first one to rest so we can work on the others do. So I say: Keep the stuff coming, and it'll be thrown into a later update. I can file them away, add them during lulls in my schedule etc. The schedule for updating this particular book is basically after this year's batch of Companion Chronicles has come out, so it may get ahead, but not in the way, of some of the later Doctors' books.
And dastari, while the offer is appreciated, I'm not using Photoshop for layouts as it's a terrible tool for doing that. I'm using InDesign. In any case, it's not laying out individual pages that's a drag, it's updating everything else around it. Pagination, references, the table of contents...
Maybe we should decide on firm dates for submission and release (maybe a week apart). Anything we I don't have time to stick in will go in the update, but the rest will make it in, including any of the new stuff you guys just gave shout-outs to.
Tentatively, I'd say June 15th and 22th. What do you think?
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Favourite Doctors: Second, Third, Fourth, Eleventh, Thirteenth
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Post by misterharry on Jun 5, 2013 12:07:35 GMT
I think the time limit is good - it prevents the flood gates being well and truly breached!
As it happens, I'm away for a few days over the weekend and early next week, which will naturally limit what I can cover before the deadline. So the only ones I'll actually commit to doing are the two I mentioned above (Jane Austen and Thomas Huxley), plus the First Mate from Here There Be Monsters (for me, the most interesting suggestion from dastari's list). If it looks like I might be able to do more, I'll let you both know in order to avoid duplications.
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 5, 2013 12:30:33 GMT
Works for me. Two of those have ready-made pics.
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Post by dastari on Jun 5, 2013 18:08:12 GMT
I think the time limit is good - it prevents the flood gates being well and truly breached! As it happens, I'm away for a few days over the weekend and early next week, which will naturally limit what I can cover before the deadline. So the only ones I'll actually commit to doing are the two I mentioned above (Jane Austen and Thomas Huxley), plus the First Mate from Here There Be Monsters (for me, the most interesting suggestion from dastari's list). If it looks like I might be able to do more, I'll let you both know in order to avoid duplications. Argh, you sniped me Mr Harry. I wanted to handle the first mate. :-) Do you mind sending that one to me when you're done? What do you think about including a sidebar about the various types of "other planes" for lack of a better term that we see in Who? I think some explanation between the underside of time and space and something like Quinnis is probably in order. I'm actually surprised that Jane Austen slipped my mind as a suggestion but happy for you to tackle her. Just make sure to remember to point out that she has a mean right hook and she can even charm the Doctor. I'm going to make it a priority to look through the book so far and familiarize myself with all the details that are already covered. As for Pike, I was thinking that the Smugglers really only needed one entry but certainly Cherub or the Squire could be a second entry from that one just to round out the pages. That's probably be the easiest for Siskoid since they're both from the same story and could both be included right at the end. I don't imagine a pirate adventure being outside of the realm of what someone is likely going to want to use. :-) We'll see what I can get out before the end. I definitely want to get out Shoreditch Alternative as I've comitted to that and that's going to require me to re-read the Time Travellers. I seem to recall the mechanics of the Hoop not being well explained but we'll see if I can get more out of it after detailed note taking. Then we'll see what I can get. I will also try and make sure that anything I submit will either have an art submission from my wife or something I've found on the web. Siskoid, I think June 22 is good for a submission deadline as it allows Mr Harry some time after he gets back from his vacation. I also think that this is a good method going forward. For each guidebook. We can give you a heads up with what we're working on and you set some minimum expectations of content but then we are also free to submit a few more entries we think are important.
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 5, 2013 18:59:41 GMT
June 22nd was actually meant to be release, and 15th for submissions, but like I said, I'll fit whatever's possible before that date.
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Post by dastari on Jun 6, 2013 5:49:21 GMT
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Posts: 3,236
Favourite Doctors: Second, Third, Fourth, Eleventh, Thirteenth
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Post by misterharry on Jun 6, 2013 8:53:30 GMT
I was actually thinking along different lines for an image of the First Mate. Rather than a Lovecraftian horror, how about an image that has been distorted into negative and/or by flare or similar effects. I've attached an image that I threw together in a couple of minutes - I'm not suggesting that this is used, but it gives an idea of what I mean. The First Mate image.bmp (148.1 KB)
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jun 6, 2013 14:29:04 GMT
I was actually thinking along different lines for an image of the First Mate. Rather than a Lovecraftian horror, how about an image that has been distorted into negative and/or by flare or similar effects. I've attached an image that I threw together in a couple of minutes - I'm not suggesting that this is used, but it gives an idea of what I mean. View AttachmentActually this one is more how I intended - the base picture is an Axon creature, and the image effects are intended to convey the idea of extra-dimensional energies. Or something. The First Mate image (monstrous form).bmp (220.48 KB)
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Post by dastari on Jun 6, 2013 17:37:22 GMT
I was actually thinking along different lines for an image of the First Mate. Rather than a Lovecraftian horror, how about an image that has been distorted into negative and/or by flare or similar effects. I've attached an image that I threw together in a couple of minutes - I'm not suggesting that this is used, but it gives an idea of what I mean. View AttachmentActually this one is more how I intended - the base picture is an Axon creature, and the image effects are intended to convey the idea of extra-dimensional energies. Or something. View AttachmentI was semi-joking about Cthulhu but when I read about tentacle monsters from a dark realm of chaos its where my mind naturally goes. I was going to suggest just overlaying the effect onto a Cthulhu picture but an Axon works really well and is more fitting since its a Who reference.
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Post by Marnal on Jun 6, 2013 18:33:31 GMT
Given that the Axon tentacle costume was recycled for the early version of the Krynoid, this seems strangely appropriate! Could we cram a Photoshopped Axon into every book?
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Post by dastari on Jun 6, 2013 18:36:20 GMT
Only if I can have a Zarbi in every book as well. :-)
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 8, 2013 11:01:52 GMT
Only if I can have a Zarbi in every book as well. :-) Didja see the Zarbi on the 2nd book's cover?
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 8, 2013 18:03:47 GMT
Current version includes a fixed Ranger and Minski, and new entries for New Bastille and Rebellious China.
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Post by dastari on Jun 9, 2013 7:06:09 GMT
Only if I can have a Zarbi in every book as well. :-) Didja see the Zarbi on the 2nd book's cover? Yes, now need to find an excuse for one on the 3rd Doctor cover!
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Jun 11, 2013 13:43:35 GMT
I think the time limit is good - it prevents the flood gates being well and truly breached! As it happens, I'm away for a few days over the weekend and early next week, which will naturally limit what I can cover before the deadline. So the only ones I'll actually commit to doing are the two I mentioned above (Jane Austen and Thomas Huxley), plus the First Mate from Here There Be Monsters (for me, the most interesting suggestion from dastari's list). If it looks like I might be able to do more, I'll let you both know in order to avoid duplications. Actually, it looks like I've time to do one further write-up before the deadline. So unless anybody objects, I'll also cover Hypatia from The Library of Alexandria.
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 12, 2013 20:49:11 GMT
I've added your new contributions: The First Mate, Jane Austen and Thomas Huxley.
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 13, 2013 21:33:08 GMT
Today... some corrections, new entries for Hypatia and the Shape Thief.
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 17, 2013 21:04:54 GMT
Newest version includes a number of new work from dastari: Cedric, General Louise Bamford, Macedonian Empire, WOTAN Alternative, and the Hoop.
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 22, 2013 19:44:49 GMT
Proof-reading stage... We're practically at the finish line!
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Post by Siskoid on Jun 24, 2013 10:29:47 GMT
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Post by dastari on Aug 14, 2013 1:54:26 GMT
For the Alchemists, I suggest 1932 Berlin as a new location and Pollitt is an interesting adversary. I'm happy to do both.
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
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Post by misterharry on Sept 19, 2013 7:33:46 GMT
I've been listening to the latest two 1st Doctor audios this week: The Dark Planet (the first release in the new - and final - Lost Stories series) and Upstairs (this month's Companion Chronicle).
When we come to do the updated edition of the Hartnell volume, I can cover the following from these:
The Dark Planet - Location: Numia (including stats for the Light and Krogor) Upstairs - Location: The Attic of 10 Downing Street
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