misterharry
Dominus Tempus
Dalek Caan's Lovechild
Posts: 3,244
Favourite Doctors: Second, Third, Fourth, Eleventh, Thirteenth
Traits: Empathic, Face in the Crowd, Insatiable Curiosity, Stubborn, Phobia (Heights), Unadventurous
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Post by misterharry on Mar 31, 2013 16:37:12 GMT
Looking good! Interested to see the inclusion of the Daleks movies - I think I have write-ups for Dr Who and Susie, which I should be able to polish up.
Wasn't Bernard Cribbins' character called Tom Campbell, rather than Morgan?
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Post by Siskoid on Mar 31, 2013 16:45:49 GMT
Yes, I don't know how I made that elaborate typo...
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 4, 2013 15:06:59 GMT
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jay042
3rd Incarnation
Working on some art.
Posts: 264
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Post by jay042 on Apr 4, 2013 22:49:09 GMT
Might need to get rid of the Cubicle 7 logo in the corner.
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 5, 2013 1:56:58 GMT
Both it and the BBC are meant to indicate the true owners/authors of the characters and the RPG. "Unauthorized" is there to say it's not an official product of either.
Of course, if asked, I will remove any offending logo.
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
Dalek Caan's Lovechild
Posts: 3,244
Favourite Doctors: Second, Third, Fourth, Eleventh, Thirteenth
Traits: Empathic, Face in the Crowd, Insatiable Curiosity, Stubborn, Phobia (Heights), Unadventurous
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Post by misterharry on Apr 5, 2013 8:08:54 GMT
Looks good. One suggestion though - it may just be me, but the angle of Peter Cushing's head looks a bit odd. It looks like he's peeking out from behind Hartnell and reminds me of the old Monty Python animations by Terry Gilliam. Other than that, very nice!
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 5, 2013 11:02:09 GMT
I was limited in the number of higher-quality images I could use, so I chose to make him peek out at Hartnell in a "Is that ME?" moment on purpose.
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
Dalek Caan's Lovechild
Posts: 3,244
Favourite Doctors: Second, Third, Fourth, Eleventh, Thirteenth
Traits: Empathic, Face in the Crowd, Insatiable Curiosity, Stubborn, Phobia (Heights), Unadventurous
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Post by misterharry on Apr 5, 2013 11:49:59 GMT
Heh heh! That makes sense! ;D
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 23, 2013 13:47:29 GMT
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 24, 2013 16:26:01 GMT
Here are the first few pages of the pdf document, more or less, so you can see what it will look like (with write-ups for Jack & Gillian, and Oliver Harper, from our own misterharry). There are notable differences in graphics from the official sourcebooks, including: -clear/white stat blocks and sidebars for less toner-intensive printing -the side graphic with the Doctor and TARDIS only appears at the start of each chapter, not on every second page -slight differences in how the picture appears at the top of stats blocks The link is docs.google.com/file/d/0B4RRnRNaDS5wTzRXdW5CcGZoNlE/edit?usp=sharingIt won't preview (format? size?) so you'll have too download/open in Acrobat Reader. Let me know what you think.
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hgpdoc9
2nd Incarnation
Posts: 41
Favourite Doctors: Tom Baker
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Post by hgpdoc9 on Apr 25, 2013 2:54:54 GMT
Sir, I LOVE it. Awesome work!!!! ;D
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 25, 2013 15:51:16 GMT
The link will not change through the revisions. You can always use it to see where we're up to. As of this minute, the pdf adds the Expanded 1st Doctor timeline and tweaks some minor problems (margins, one factual error, stuff like that).
I think I have a good handle on the layout, so now it's a matter of pasting misterharry's great write-ups into the same format. (Of course, I still have to tackle layouts for Locations and Gadgets, but at least the characters are pretty set.)
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 25, 2013 21:18:50 GMT
I've added more content, including those Allies that have been written-up, a monster and a location. You'll see how I've handled the parts where we still need art.
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 27, 2013 22:49:57 GMT
Keeping you updated... The document currently holds:
Introduction Chapter 1: First Doctor's Expanded Timeline Chapter 2: Companions and Allies John and Gillian Sidebar: The TV Comic Doctor's Adventures Oliver Harper Alexander the Great Guy Fawkes Robin Hood Sidebar: The Merry Men Sir Francis Drake
Chapter 3: Monsters and Villains Cahlians The Cold Sidebars: Cold Knights, Dimensional Interference and the TARDIS Fishmen of Kandalinga Foxes Fulgurites Greld Kleptons Latter-Day Pantheon Marsh Wains Morphieans Robots of Luxor Rocket Men
Chapter 4: Locations in Time and Space Armageddon Convention Sidebar: Jamarians
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ct345
1st Incarnation
Posts: 1
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Post by ct345 on Apr 29, 2013 10:46:20 GMT
I'm gonna give the Pheonix from Frost fire a go, if that's ok with the organisers.
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 29, 2013 10:46:58 GMT
Sure is!
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 29, 2013 16:44:16 GMT
The current document has all the locations and gadgets made to date added to it.
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hgpdoc9
2nd Incarnation
Posts: 41
Favourite Doctors: Tom Baker
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Post by hgpdoc9 on Apr 30, 2013 3:45:03 GMT
All of you guys are AWESOME. I love what you have done with this book. It is really a show of devotion for the written, audio, and comic material. EXCELLENT WORK!
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Post by Siskoid on Apr 30, 2013 12:48:29 GMT
Thanks hgpdoc9, very kind. I'm looking forward to adding the section on the Peter Cushing films in the next 24 hours, after which, unless misterharry surprises me with another batch, I'll be revising the text and locking the edit on these 50+ pages, then starting work on the entries I set aside for myself. misterharry's set the bar pretty high, but I've decided not to let it intimidate me. Since each entry will have a proper credit, there's no reason to emulate the style exactly, each contributor will likely have their own.
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misterharry
Dominus Tempus
Dalek Caan's Lovechild
Posts: 3,244
Favourite Doctors: Second, Third, Fourth, Eleventh, Thirteenth
Traits: Empathic, Face in the Crowd, Insatiable Curiosity, Stubborn, Phobia (Heights), Unadventurous
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Post by misterharry on Apr 30, 2013 18:33:05 GMT
Thanks for the complement - not sure that it's deserved.
But I do have one more (smallish) batch to send you - hopefully within the next couple of days.
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Post by Siskoid on May 2, 2013 16:42:29 GMT
So what's left to do?
My tasks: -Editing, add Plot Hooks chapter (written, but needs proofing), add Traits Index, add Credits page, find missing images (will probably start a thread just for that), pagination. -Entries: Sara Kingdom House, Captain James Cook, Wong Fei-Hung, Maskmasters of the Pageant, Minski de Sade, Mongolians, Rasputin, Boxer Rebellion China, Byzantium, New Bastille, The Time Museum, all the "Omitted but not forgotten" stats-only entries. (Note that if anyone wants to take one or more entry off my hands, I'm willing to talk.)
ct345 is working on: Living Water, Shape Thief, and Russia, 1812.
WIDE OPEN: Dahensa The Suffering Avalon / sidebar on magic in the Whoniverse The Great Clock Shoreditch Alternative anything you think we missed (Bunnoids, worthy comics, short stories, etc.)
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Post by Siskoid on May 6, 2013 22:12:32 GMT
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Post by dastari on May 12, 2013 22:56:29 GMT
Just wanted to chime in to show that I've found the thread and will be following it.
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Post by Siskoid on May 13, 2013 15:45:28 GMT
Welcome aboard, Dastari. I've added your promised contributions to the top post.
Oh, and the current document now includes the Adventure Seeds chapter.
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Post by dastari on May 17, 2013 0:36:37 GMT
I just started listening to The Suffering after having finished Frostfire. Although your chronology places The Suffering after Frostfire that can't have been the case. In the Suffering, Steven says that he had his last meal in 1066, a direct reference to The Time Meddler having just occurred. This means that the Suffering happens prior to Frostfire. Frostfire has no links to any other story so there's no reason to put it the other way. I think that most people order it that way in their chronologies because they forgot that reference and Frostfire came out before The Suffering.
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Post by Siskoid on May 17, 2013 1:02:43 GMT
That's awesome. Great work. It won't be the first or last time I've moved the chronology around.
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daemos
2nd Incarnation
Posts: 24
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Post by daemos on May 21, 2013 9:28:40 GMT
Hate to bother you when you're busy but could you please put up a link that works? Every time I try it, it comes up with a message saying the document has been moved or deleted. Perhaps you could give misterharry a copy to put on his Mediafire site as a backup?
Regards
Iain
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Post by Siskoid on May 21, 2013 14:01:37 GMT
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Post by Siskoid on May 22, 2013 21:18:59 GMT
More or less in the final stretch now, new update tonight includes a few more entries (Wong Fei-hung, Bunker Soldiers, Dahensa). New images too. Some changes to line-up as well: The Maskmasters of the Pageant have been relegated to the 6th Doctor book since the Pageant is much better detailed in The Quantum Archangel, and the China entry will cover more than just the Boxer Rebellion (after all, The Eleventh Tiger took place much earlier), so the name of the entry changed.
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Post by dastari on May 28, 2013 8:10:46 GMT
Some changes to line-up as well: The Maskmasters of the Pageant have been relegated to the 6th Doctor book since the Pageant is much better detailed in The Quantum Archangel, Are they? I didn't recall that and just looked it up in I Who 2 (which is usually good about pointing out links between novels) and it doesn't mention any link between Quantum Archangel and Man in the Velvet Mask. Just wanted to be sure unless this factoid was coming from somewhere on the net that may be incorrect. I'm certainly willing to read Man in the Velvet Mask again to get a writeup on them as I'm one of the 5 people on Earth that liked that book. :-) Also, I don't want to step on anyone's toes here but the early posts here said that this is collaborative so even though I have not read the existing sourcebook exhaustively I have looked at a few entries. The Venus entry states, "Unable to leave the planet, the Venusians inevitably succumbed, baked by the inexorable sun and starved as their food sources disappeared." IIRC this is conjectuve on the Doctor's part. He knows that Venus itself will get hotter and he assumes that at their current technological level that the Venusians will die off. However, the end of the story gives Venus a 30,000 year respite as the Volcanic erruptions cause global cooling. This is enough time for the Venusians to potentially develop the necessary technology to leave their world or a truly benign race to show up to take them to another planet. I would like to suggest that the sentences above be removed from the Venus entry and instead be replaced with: Adventure Seed: The Final End? The TARDISeers arrive on Venus 30,000 years after Venusian Lullaby. They have overcome their technical limitations but now every ship they fire into orbit is shot down by an unknown alien race. Your time travellers will need to find out what the aliens want and/or how to get around them if they are to save the Venusians from extinction.
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