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Post by Curufea on Dec 10, 2009 23:27:39 GMT
A campaign set after all the events in the audio dramas (and possibly the books depending on how linear you view time). What is Faction Paradox?Warning - this campaign setting idea contains spoilers for the series and should not be read by my players (You know who you are)
The Story So FarCharacter types available to players- - Brothers and Sisters - new Faction Recruits that arrived just before the invasion.
- Trapped Visitors - allies or potential allies of the Faction caught within the Empire.
- Mysterious Stranger(1) - first being to turn up in the Empire post-invasion, other than the War King.
Setting: A small bubble of time containing London, September 3 1752 to September 13 1752. However this London is no longer on Earth. Recent Events: After the Sontaran invasion was repelled, and the ambassadors from the Great Houses were duped into bringing Lolita, things have gone a bit downhill. The spirits are absent, there is no sky and no time travel equipment or rituals work. In fact no rituals at all work and no one has a shadow. Then the leader of the Great Houses, the War King himself appears and he has a plan. What the players know: Being minor and peripheral to all the great events, all they are aware of is that every important member of the Faction has been closeted in Parliament with the War King for the foreseeable future (in every sense of the word). Their primary goal is to escape the Empire back into the universe and recover their shadows. Notes (1) This character will probably go to a longtime player who always chooses Tabula Rasa characters in my game, and yet again I'm almost designing the campaign to fit him in. Partly he does it for the challenge, but I think mostly he does it so he doesn't have to read any background material  I'm thinking probably someone from the City of the Saved based on where the City is located and where the new universe it contacts is located and where the Empire now is. |
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Post by Null and Void on Dec 10, 2009 23:57:11 GMT
Hmmm.... I'm really curious what the War King is up to. The inclusion of someone from the City of the Saved is interesting. Will he have any memory of it? Also, I'm curious as to why you want to place this post-Horus... surely it would be more of a challenge for them to escape while Lolita is... uh.... viable. |
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Post by Curufea on Dec 11, 2009 3:43:17 GMT
I don't think a link could be formed between Lolita, Compassion and Antipathy until Lolita suffers the same fate as Antipathy - which could be a viable god-given punishment.
While Lolita is active, there's less cracks in her protective powers and there would be less of a choice of characters.
Lolita, like Antipathy, effectively becomes another bottle universe.
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Post by Null and Void on Dec 11, 2009 17:38:07 GMT
Hmmm... The fate of Lolita is left vague in The Judgement of Sutekh. What happened is heavily implied however. I would agree that when Lolita is fully conscious and in control, her powers to suppress those she has consumed is vast. It would make sense that there is more of a chance to escape after... whatever happened.
But I'm not sure that would limit the number of character options... in the long view, surely Lolita has consumed more than The 11-Day Empire and the War King.
But to draw a comparison to Antipathy and Compassion, there must be something similar to the Uptime and Downtime Gates within her. That would present the most logical method of escape... and if I'm guessing right, that explains the presence of someone from the City of the Saved...
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Post by Curufea on Dec 11, 2009 23:23:05 GMT
Yes, but I haven't worked out where it would be best to put the gate - in the City where there already is one, or elsewhere...
Lolita had children as well, so there are other potentials.
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Post by Curufea on Dec 13, 2009 3:26:53 GMT
Also, I'll have to wait until after Christmas to work out if the new series is compatible with the FP setting - it does depend a lot on what happens to the War King (Master).
Currently I'm going on the idea that Ancestor Cell didn't occur, and all the Doctor knew of the Time War was about the Daleks, and he had been kept in the dark about them being yet another pawn of The Enemy.
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Post by Null and Void on Dec 13, 2009 14:41:07 GMT
Also, I'll have to wait until after Christmas to work out if the new series is compatible with the FP setting - it does depend a lot on what happens to the War King (Master). Currently I'm going on the idea that Ancestor Cell didn't occur, and all the Doctor knew of the Time War was about the Daleks, and he had been kept in the dark about them being yet another pawn of The Enemy. As an alternative to the Master as the War King, the War Chief is also ideal. In fact, he seems a lot more reasonable as The War King in my mind. I think a lot of FP fans discount The Ancestor Cell. In my mind, the Daleks were definately a pawn of The Enemy. The Doctor wasn't necessarily kept in the dark about the Enemy, but may have been so focussed on the Daleks that he never noticed there was something else going on. |
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Post by Curufea on Dec 13, 2009 23:03:50 GMT
True, his arrogance often leads to snap judgements that have to be corrected later. Although sometimes the correction is his death sentence of "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry"...
Where is the War Chief referenced? Is it in an FP book I've not read yet?
I've always been disapointed by the Time War and Daleks defeating Gallifrey. It's like a bunch of peasants wiping out the Shogunate. Like the Master being run over by a car in the street.
A real let-down. There is not enough narrative importance.
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Post by doctorflea on Dec 13, 2009 23:13:24 GMT
I've always been disapointed by the Time War and Daleks defeating Gallifrey. It's like a bunch of peasants wiping out the Shogunate. Like the Master being run over by a car in the street. A real let-down. There is not enough narrative importance. I'd consider it more a case of mutual self-destruction... no one won. |
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Post by Curufea on Dec 13, 2009 23:26:46 GMT
I've always been disapointed by the Time War and Daleks defeating Gallifrey. It's like a bunch of peasants wiping out the Shogunate. Like the Master being run over by a car in the street. A real let-down. There is not enough narrative importance. I'd consider it more a case of mutual self-destruction... no one won. No - it was a pyrrhic victory for the Daleks. There is no way the Daleks could ever have effected the universe with their existence (even including the successful application of the reality bomb) as much as the Gallifreyans did. The destruction of the multiverse (except for a few areas the Daleks wanted to keep) would be a minor setback for Time Lords and their web of time, had they survived. Daleks still remain anchored in time, and will always be vulnerable to that - the only reason they aren't wiped out is their attachments to so many events that are important. The Daleks operate in a universe of which the rules of how it works were pretty much written by the Gallifreyans. |
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Post by Null and Void on Dec 14, 2009 0:28:57 GMT
True, his arrogance often leads to snap judgements that have to be corrected later. Although sometimes the correction is his death sentence of "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry"... Where is the War Chief referenced? Is it in an FP book I've not read yet? I've always been disapointed by the Time War and Daleks defeating Gallifrey. It's like a bunch of peasants wiping out the Shogunate. Like the Master being run over by a car in the street. A real let-down. There is not enough narrative importance. The War Chief is from the 2nd Doctor Who Episode 'The Wargames'. He was also a renegade Time Lord, but seemed to be one more interested in Warfare and Tactics. He's not as well known as The Master, but he was definately there. He was supposedly executed by the Time Lords, but that could always be called into question. The War King is only really referred to as a 'notorious renegade' and criminal, which fits either The Master or The War Chief. |
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Post by Curufea on Dec 14, 2009 0:37:54 GMT
I'm presuming the Master based on his devious manipulation of Justine and Lolita in the audio dramas. Wargames is a DVD I don't yet own, but I will rectify that I come from a deprived childhood - I had nightmares from watching Talons of Weng-Chiang (the giant rats I think) at an early age and was forbidden to watch Who after that (including repeats), so I've been catching up in my adult life, based on BBC releases. |
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Post by Null and Void on Dec 14, 2009 0:53:05 GMT
The Wargames is a classic classic episode, but it IS very long. I think it was the last 12 part story they ever did. I always found it quite inspiring.
I got by reading the old Target novelizations for some of them... mainly the missing ones.
I think you'll like War Games
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Post by Curufea on Dec 14, 2009 5:50:42 GMT
I keep track via wikipedia of the DVD releases, and record them on one of my [irl=http://www.curufea.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakka=VideoDoctorWho]wikis[/url] when I get them I believe it's a fairly recent release. I may get the Black Guardian trilogy before I get it. |
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I'm thinking probably someone from the City of the Saved based on where the City is located and where the new universe it contacts is located and where the Empire now is.
